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09 August 2000
by Jackson Tan

A lot of Chinese living in western countries have been the target of racism, e.g. Australia, and Europe and elsewhere. But racism against Chinese people occurs in Asian countries too. In Malaysia and Indonesia where the Chinese have done well, racism against Chinese people is terrible. There are laws in Malaysia giving privileges to Malays in higher education, business and politics. In Indonesia, we have heard of how the Chinese have been treated; Chinese women raped, houses burnt down, and possessions taken away.

Although the Chinese have been the target of racism, and although they know how it feels to be treated like second class citizens, some of them are not above being racist themselves. In Malaysia where I live, a lot of Chinese do not like the Malays. The times when me and my Chinese friends see a Chinese girl with a Malay boy, my friends feel very unhappy. But perhaps their feelings of racism would not be so strong if they lived in a country where the Chinese are not treated as badly.

The Chinese as a group tend to be closely knit. They do not like to see their children marrying out to other races. I do not know about the Chinese in western countries, but from the view of the Chinese in Malaysia and Singapore where I was born, this is the attitude of Chinese people here, especially of the older generation.

Two Chinese friends of mine married Malay girls. The first couple was ostracised by both their families, and it was not until many years later that their families were able to accept the marriage. The boy in the second couple became Muslim. The boy's parents tried every way to stop the relationship, but to no avail. For some time after the marriage, they did not talk to him, but fortunately they eventually patched up.Whether they are the majority or minority in a country, the Chinese are not above racism.

But from what I see, the new generation of Chinese who are brought up in a modern world are less racist and more willing to accept mixed race relationships. This new generation though have the odds stacked up against them. In Malaysia where I live, the majority Malays ostracise their children if they are in a couple with a Chinese person who is not Muslim. The blatant unequal treatment between Malays and Chinese is also a source for resentment and makes it very difficult for both races to come together.

It seems that racism is a universal sickness of mankind. But through education maybe the next generation will not be like that. The Chinese have a saying "One goes to school to learn how to be a human being and to acquire knowledge". It is sad that our current education system concentrates only on the knowledge part.

 
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Michael Chick - The Malays are not a race Posted 13:39 on 2 October 2007
It's been interesting to read such free-flowing comments on an all "Malaysian" free for all. While we are on the subject, how many of you have read the book entitled "Contesting Malayness - Malay Identity Across Boundaries" Edited by Timothy P. Barnard published by Singapore University Press. (Read here for more and here and here )
Written by a Professor of National University of Singapore. Cost S$32 (about). It reflects the Anthropologists views that there is no such race as the "Malays" to begin with. If we follow the original migration of the Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago, they moved into Taiwan, (now the Alisan), then into the Phillipines (now the Aeta) and moved into Borneo (4,500yrs ago) (Dayak). They also split into Sulawesi and progressed into Jawa, and Sumatera. The final migration was to the Malayan Peninsular 3,000yrs ago. A sub-group from Borneo also moved to Champa in Vietnam at 4,500yrs ago.

Interestingly, the Champa deviant group moved back to present day Kelantan. There are also traces of the Dong Song and HoaBinh migration from Vietnam and Cambodia. To confuse the issue, there was also the Southern Thai migration, from what we know as Pattani today. (see also "Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsular")

Of course, we also have the Minangkabau's which come from the descendants of Alexander the Great and a West Indian Princess. (Sejarah Melayu page 1-3)


So the million Dollar Question... Is there really a race called the "Malays"? All anthropologists DO NOT SEEM TO THINK SO.


Neither do the "Malays" who live on the West Coast of Johor. They'd rather be called Javanese. What about the west coast Kedah inhabitants who prefer to be known as "Achenese"? or the Ibans who simply want to be known as IBANS. Try calling a Kelabit a "Malay" and see what response you get... you’ll be so glad that their Head-Hunting days are over.

In an article in the Star, dated: Dec 3rd 2006

available for on-line viewing at:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/12/3/focus/16212814&sec=focus

An excerp is reproduced here below:

"The Malays – taken as an aggregation of people of different ethnic backgrounds but who speak the same language or family of languages and share common cultural and traditional ties – are essentially a new race, compared to the Chinese, Indians and the Arabs with their long histories of quests and conquests.

The Malay nation, therefore, covers people of various ethnic stock, including Javanese, Bugis, Bawean, Achehnese, Thai, orang asli, the indigenous people of Sabah and Sarawak and descendants of Indian Muslims who had married local women.

Beneath these variations, however, there is a common steely core that is bent on changing the Malay persona from its perceived lethargic character to one that is brave, bold and ready to take on the world. "


The definition of “Malay” is therefore simply a collection of people's who speak a similar type language. With what is meant by a similar type language does not mean that the words are similar. Linguists call this the "Lego-type" language, where words are added on to the root word to make meaning and give tenses and such. Somehow, the Indonesians disagree with this classification and insist on being called "Indonesians" even though the majority of "Malays" have their roots in parts of Indonesia? They refuse to be called "Malay"…. Anyhow you may define it.

The writer failed to identify (probably didn't know), that the "Malay" definition also includes, the Champa, Dong Song, HoabinHian, The Taiwanese Alisan and the Philippino Aetas. He also did not identify that the "Orang Asli" are (for lack of a better term) ex-Africans. If you try to call any one of our East Malaysian brothers an "Orang Asli", they WILL BEAT YOU UP! I had to repeat this because almost all West Malaysians make the same mistake when we cross the South China Sea. Worse, somehow, they feel even more insulted when you call them “Malay”. Somehow, “kurang ajar” is uttered below their breath as if “Malay” was a really bad word for them. I’m still trying to figure this one out.

Watch “Malays in Africa”; a Museum Negara produced DVD. Also, the “Champa Malays” by the same.

With this classification, they MUST also include the Phillipinos, the Papua New Guineans, the Australian Aboroginies, as well as the Polynesian Aboroginies. These are of the Australo Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago.

Getting interesting? Read on...

"Malay" should also include the Taiwanese singer "Ah Mei" who is Alisan as her tribe are the anscestors of the "Malays". And finally, you will need to define the Southern Chinese (Southern Province) as Malay also, since they are from the same stock 6,000yrs ago.

Try calling the Bugis a "Malay". Interestingly, the Bugis, who predominantly live on Sulawesi are not even Indonesians. Neither do they fall into the same group as the migrating Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago nor the Australo Melanesian group from Africa.

Ready for this?

The Bugis are the cross-breed between the Mongolian Chinese and the wandering Arab Pirates. (FYI, a runaway Ming Dynasty official whom Cheng Ho was sent to hunt down) Interestingly, the Bugis were career Pirates in the Johor-Riau Island areas. Now the nephew of Daeng Kemboja was appointed the First Sultan of Selangor. That makes the entire Selangor Sultanate part Arab, part Chinese! Try talking to the Bugis Museum curator near Kukup in Johor. Kukup is located near the most south-western tip of Johor. (Due south of Pontian Kechil)

Let's not even get into the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekiu, and Hang Lekir, who shared the same family last name as the other super famous "Hang" family member... Hang Li Poh. And who was she? Legend tells us that she is the princess of a Ming Dynasty Emperor who was sent to marry the Sultan of Malacca. Won't that make the entire Malacca Sultanate downline "Baba" ? Since the older son of the collapsed Malaccan Sultanate got killed in Johor, (the current Sultanate is the downline of the then, Bendahara) the only other son became the Sultan of Perak. Do we see any Chinese-ness in Raja Azlan? Is he the descendant of Hang Li Poh? But wait a minute....

That's what legend says. Let's look at the proof. The solid evidence. There is a well next to the Zheng He Temple in Malacca which is supposed to be the well built by the Sultan of Malacca for her. According to legend, anyone who drinks of it shall re-visit Malacca before they die. Hmmm smells like a romantic fairy tale already. But let's look at who Hang Li Poh actually is. Which Ming Emperor was she a daughter to? So I got into researching the entire list of Ming Emperors. Guess what? Not a single Ming Emperor's last name begins with Hang. In fact, all their last names begin with Tzu (pronounced Choo). So who is Hang Li Poh? An Extra Concubine? A Spare Handmaiden? Who knows? But one thing for certain, is that she was no daughter of any of the Ming Emperors. Gone is the romantic notion of the Sultan of Malacca marrying an exotic Chinese Princess. Sorry guys, the Sultan married an unidentified Chinese commoner.

Next question. If the Baba’s are part Malay, why have they been marginalized by NOT BEING BUMIPUTERA? Which part of “Malay” are they not? Whatever the answer, why then are the Portugese of Malacca BUMIPUTERA? Did they not come 100yrs AFTER the arrival of the first Baba’s? Parameswara founded Malacca in 1411. The Portugese came in 1511, and the Dutch in the 1600’s. Strangely, the Baba’s were in fact once classified a Bumiputera, but some Prime Minister decreed that they were to be strangely “declassified” in the 1960’s. WHY? How can a "native son of the soil" degenerate into an "un-son"? The new classification is "pendatang" meaning a migrant. Wait a minute, isn't EVERYONE on the Peninsular a migrant to begin with?

The Sultan of Kelantan had similar roots to the Pattani Kingdom making him of Thai origin. And what is this "coffee table book" by the Sultan of Perlis claiming to be the direct descendant of the prophet Muhammed? Somehow we see Prof Khoo Khay Khim’s signature name on the book. I’ll pay good money to own a copy of it myself. Anyone has a spare?

Inpersuing this thread, and having looked at the history of Prophet Muhammed (BTW, real name Ahmad) we couldn't figure out which descendant line The Sultan of Perlis was. Perhaps it was by the name Syed, which transcended. Then we would ask which of the 13 official wives named in the Holy Koran? or was he a descendant from the other 23 names of the non-wives? Of the 13 were (at least known) 3 Israeli women. Then you would also ask yourself, isn't Prophet Muhammad an Israeli himself? The answer is clear. All descendants of Moses are Israeli. In fact, the Holy Koran teaches that Moses was the First Muslim. Thus confirming all descendants to be Israeli, including Jesus and Prophet Muhammad. It is also found in Sura 2:58&59 which specifically mentions that the Torah and the Kitab (Bible) are Holy Words of Allah. But since this is not a religious discussion, let's move on to a more anthropological approach.

So, how many of you have met with orang Asli’s? the more northern you go, the more African they look. Why are they called Negrito’s? It is a Spanish word, from which directly transalates “mini Negros”. The more southern you go, the more “Indonesian” they look. And the ones who live at Cameron Highlands kinda look 50-50. You can see the Batek at Taman Negara, who really look like Eddie Murphy to a certain degree. Or the Negritos who live at the Thai border near Temenggor Lake (north Perak). The Mah Meri in Carrie Island look almost like the Jakuns in Endau Rompin. Half African, half Indonesian.

By definition, (this is super eye-opening) there was a Hindu Malay Empire in Kedah. Yes, I said right… The Malays were Hindu. It was, by the old name Langkasuka. Today known as Lembah Bujang. This Hindu Malay Empire was 2,000yrs old. Pre-dating Borrobudor AND Angkor Watt. Who came about around 500-600yrs later. Lembah Bujang was THE mighty trading empire, and its biggest influence was by the Indians who were here to help start it. By definition, this should make the Indians BUMIPUTERAS too since they were here 2,000yrs ago! Why are they marginalized?

Of the 3 books listed, "Contesting Malayness" (about S$32 for soft cover) is "banned” in Malaysia; you will need to "smuggle" it into Malaysia; for very obvious reasons.... :( or read it in Singapore if you don’t feel like breaking the law.

The other, "Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago, and the Malay Peninsular" (about RM84) are openly sold at all leading bookshops; Kinokuniya, MPH, Borders, Popular, Times, etc. You should be able to find a fair bit of what I’ve been quoting in this book too, but mind you, it is very heavy reading material, and you will struggle through the initial 200+ pages. It is extremely technical in nature. Maybe that’s why it wasn’t banned (yet)…coz our authorities couldn’t make head or tail of it? (FYI, if I wasn’t doing research for my film, I wouldn’t have read it in its entirety)

While the "Sejarah Melayu" (about RM 35) is available at the University Malaya bookshop. I have both the English and Royal Malay version published by MBRAS.

Incidentally, the Professor (Author) was invited to speak on this very subject about 2 yrs ago, in KL, invited by the MBRAS. You can imagine the "chaos" this seminar created...... :(

There were actually many sources for these findings. Any older Philippino Museum Journal also carries these migration stories. This migration is also on display at the Philippines National Museum in Luzon. However, they end with the Aeta, and only briefly mention that the migration continued to Indonesia and Malaysia, but fully acknowledge that all Philippinos came from Taiwan. And before Taiwan, China. There is another book (part of a series) called the "Archipelago Series" endorsed by Tun Mahatir and Marina Mohammad, which states the very same thing right at the introduction on page one. “… that the Malays migrated out of Southern China some 6,000yrs ago…”. I believe it is called the “Pre-History of Malaysia” Hard Cover, about RM99 found in (mostly) MPH. They also carry “Pre-History of Indonesia” by the same authors for the same price.

It is most interesting to note that our Museum officials invented brand new unheard-of terms such as "Proto-Malay" and "Deutero-Malay", to replace the accepted Scientific Term, Australo-Melanesians (African descent) and Austronesians (Chinese Descent, or Mongoloid to be precise) in keeping in line with creating this new “Malay” term.. They also created the new term called the Melayu-Polynesian. (Which Melayu exists in the Polynesian Islands?) Maybe they were just trying to be “Patriotic” and “Nationalistic”… who knows…? After all, we also invented the term, “Malaysian Time”. While the rest of the world calls it “Tardy” and “Late”. It’s quite an embarrassment actually…. Singaporeans crossing the border are asked to set their watches back by about 100yrs, to adjust to “Malaysian Time”…

In a nutshell, the British Colonial Masters, who, for lack of a better description, needed a “blanket” category for ease of classification, used the term “Malay”.

The only other logical explanation, which I have heard, was that “Malaya” came as a derivative of “Himalaya”, where at Langkasuka, or Lembah Bujang today was where the Indians were describing the locals as “Malai” which means “Hill People” in Tamil. This made perfect sense as the focal point at that time was at Gunung Jerai, and the entire Peninsular had a “Mountain Range” “Banjaran Titiwangsa”, as we call it.

The Mandarin and Cantonese accurately maintain the accurate pronunciation of “Malai Ren” and “Malai Yun” respectively till this very day. Where “ren” and “yun” both mean “peoples”.

Interestingly, “Kadar” and “Kidara”, Hindi and Sanskrit words accurately describe “Kedah” of today. They both mean “fertile Land for Rice cultivation. Again, a name given by the Indians 2,000yrs ago during the “Golden Hindu Era” for a duration of 1,500yrs.

It was during the “Golden Hindu Era” that the new term which the Hindu Malay leaders also adopted the titles, “Sultan” and “Raja”. The Malay Royalty were Hindu at that time, as all of Southeast Asia was under strong Indian influence, including Borrobudor, and Angkor Watt. Bali today still practices devout Hindu Beliefs. The snake amulet worn by the Sultans of today, The Royal Dias, and even the “Pelamin” for weddings are tell-tale signs of these strong Indian influences. So, it was NOT Parameswara who was the first Sultan in Malaya. Sultanage existed approximately 1,500years before he set foot on the Peninsular during the "Golden Hindu Era" of Malaysia. And they were all Hindu.

“PreHistory of Malaysia” also talks about the “Lost Kingdom” of the “Chi-Tu” where the local Malay Kingdom were Buddhists. The rest of the “Malays” were Animistic Pagans.

But you may say, "Sejarah Melayu" calls it "Melayu"? Yes, it does. Read it again; is it trying to describe the 200-odd population hamlet near Palembang by the name "Melayu"?(Google Earth will show this village).

By that same definition, then, the Achehnese should be considered a “race”. So should the Bugis and the Bataks, to be fair. Orang Acheh, Orang Bugis, Orang Laut, Orang Melayu now mean the same… descriptions of ethnic tribes, at best. And since the “Malays” of today are not all descendants of the “Melayu” kampung in Jambi (if I remember correctly), the term Melayu has been wrongly termed. From day one. Maybe this is why the Johoreans still call themselves either Bugis, or Javanese until today. So do the Achehnese on the West coast of Kedah & Perlis and the Kelantanese insist that they came from Champa, Vietnam.

Morover, the fact that the first 3 pages claiming that "Melayu" comes from Alexander the Great and the West Indian Princess doesn't help. More importantly, it was written in 1623. By then, the Indians had been calling the locals “Malai” for 1,500 yrs already. So the name stuck….

And with the Sejarah Melayu (The Malay Annals in page 1-3) naming the grandson of Iskandar Zulkarnain, and the West Indian Princess forming the Minangkabau. Whenever a Malay is asked about it, he usually says it is "Karut" (bullshit), but all Malayan based historians insist on using Sejarah Melayu as THE main reference book for which "Malay" history is based upon. The only other books are “Misa Melayu”, "Hikayat Merong Mahawangsa", and “Hikayat Hang Tuah” which is of another long and sometimes “heated” discussion.

I find this strange.

I also find, that it is strange that the "Chitti's" (Indian+Malay) of Malacca are categorized as Bumiputera, while their Baba brothers are not. Why? Both existed during the Parameswara days. Which part of the “Malay” side of the Baba’s is not good enough for Bumiputera classification? Re-instate them. They used to be Bumiputera pre 1960’s anyway.

Instead of "Malay", I believe that "Maphilindo" (circa 1963) would have been the closest in accurately trying to describe the Malays. However, going by that definition, it should most accurately be "MaphilindoThaiChinDiaVietWanGreekCamfrica". And it is because of this; even our University Malaya Anthropology professors cannot look at you in the eye and truthfully say that the word "Malay" technically and accurately defines a race.

This is most unfortunate.

So, in a nutshell, the “Malays” (anthropologists will disagree with this “race” definition) are TRULY ASIA !!! For once the Tourism Ministry got it right….

We should stop calling this country “Tanah Melayu” instead call it, “Tanah Truly Asia”

You must understand now, why I was "tickled pink" when I found out that the Visit Malaysia slogan for 2007 was "Truly Asia". They are so correct... (even though they missed out Greece and Africa)

BTW, the name UMNO should be changed to UTANO the new official acronym for “United Truly Asia National Organization” . After all, they started out as a Bugis club in Johor anyway….

I told you all that I hate race classifications…. This is so depressing. Even more depressing is that the "malays" are not even a race; not since day one.


“Truly Asia Boleh”
AsianRacism - Blog on Racism in Asia Posted 7:03 on 8 April 2008
I have dedicated an entire blog to examining racism in Asia, including the persecution of Chinese in Malaysia. Take a look at www.asianracism.blogspot.com
Jack - Malays are in fact asian black Posted 15:01 on 8 April 2008
From Europe, to Middle East, to Northern Africa, to Sub-Sahara Africa, the people become darker and darker.

Paralle to Europe-Africa, from Sabria, Mongal, Northern China (also Korea and Japan), Southern China, Veitnam, Malaysia, Indonisia, the skin becomes darker and darker. The real local Malay is infact black.

Malay's aggresive can be compared with Zulu in africa. Anyway, they both are still close to the original of human, low IQ, and aggresive behaviours.
vie - so rude Posted 17:40 on 4 March 2009
mind ur language jack..not all malay people are black..low IQ?/this is a racist..
n more..jackson? are u singaporean? if u r..listen..singapore is part of malaysia..or used to known as tanah melayu.. they r given away to chinese people in order to get peace..u understand right,what i mean..because of racist...started by chinese people.. u guys actually not belongn from here,malaysia or singapore.. but malay people give space n share our land for u guys.. please remember this.. this is the only land own by malay people n we are willing to do anything to get some peace here.. if u don't like,move away n live in china,the original land of yours..
Robert Stallmann - "Racial" idiocy Posted 5:26 on 17 July 2008
According to "Jack": Zulus are aggressive, Malays are aggressive, both "still close to the original of human" [sic]. I guess the Zulus were less "aggressive" than the white British who tried to take over their land? And what is all this talk about the Malays being "not even a race"? They have their own language and culture--why are you all so obsessed with genetics and so-called races? What is a race supposed to be anyway? If you're so proud of your master race, why not become a Nazi? All of this amateur anthropology combined with the typical racist attitude toward Indonesians really makes me sick. Since you're so into reading--have you ever read about wealthy, ethnic Chinese and Indian people in Malaysia beating, torturing, imprisoning and underpaying (or not paying) their Indonesian maids? You are NOT superior to Malays by virtue of your race, OK? Neither are they superior to you. Worst of all are the comments about Bugis people being offspring of Arab "pirates" and Chinese. The Arabs and Persians who came to Indonesia were not pirates, they were traders. Aside from that, the India/Hindu connection to Indonesia has long been known to everyone--have you ever visited Indonesia's National Museum in Jakarta?? It's all there for anyone to see.
JW - Malaysia racial policies Posted 3:11 on 25 November 2008
The Malay's idea of favouring people in their country by race rather than by their hard work etc is just plain unfair and will eventually cause the country to never progress past a certain point.

When someone is born in a country they should have the same rights as everyone else, it's their home country...

btw I am half malaysian chinese and half scottish and was born in the uk...
tony - dont be stupid Posted 0:04 on 26 December 2008
chinese people belong in china..malays have been living in malaysia long before the british brought in chinese slaves into malaysia..so plz be grateful that ur even allowed to be living in malaysia..i advise the government to send the ungrateful chinese b@#!%ds back to china
SM - dont be stupid Posted 21:18 on 11 February 2009
Tony, people like you are the main reasons why Malaysia is still divided by race and religion.

Just like AT said, show some freakin RESPECT, and grow up A LOT for everyone's sake.
AT - Tony what? Posted 0:49 on 19 January 2009
They were born there, it is as much their country as well. What your saying is just downright racist. And Chinese slaves brought by the British? Someone needs a history lesson.
Show some respect and maybe grow up a little. If those bigots gave equal rights to all their citizens, then Malaysia would become far more prosperous.
sinan - mongols are mongols Posted 8:31 on 3 March 2009
mongol race is not a chinese race michael chick mentioned above about mongols as 'chinese mongols' ---> what the hell you think you know? embecil
sinan - mongols are mongols Posted 8:35 on 3 March 2009
michael chick said 'mongolian chinese'---> what the heck is that mean? mongolian are mongols and chinese are chinese (hans) . mongolians are more closer to turks (turkic races, such as uygurs or uigurs) than chinese race.
Edwina Lee - Institutionalised Racism in Ma Posted 19:12 on 4 March 2009
The institutionalised racism practiced in Malaysia & Indonesia have no place in a civilised world.

The Bumis justify their institutionalised racism by claiming they are natives of these countries. Even this claim is false. Other groups were there before them.

The racism practiced in these countries are rarely reported, and if reported, the details of the rules are not reported.

Here is an article which reveals without the details, what has been going on for a very time:-

http://glob.lokety.com/2006/09/three-viewpoints-on-racial.html
Adreana - Michael chibk Talk cock Posted 11:32 on 4 April 2009
Halo chick, talk cock la u. Hang only d title not sir name or what. li poh gt the title hang nt originate from her father. Bongok la u..
Think before talk la. Aiyoo macha..
Nelson - Disappointed Posted 10:21 on 4 June 2009
I can't see why some people (eg. vie, tony, etc) believe that a certain geographical land belongs outright to a certain race. Its a characteristic of pure stupidity.

These people really need to read history than just listen to other bigots' sayings. STUPID! SHALLOW!

vie, Singapore separated from Malaysia is because UMNO disagreed with Lee Kuan Yew's policy to advocate egalitarianism. To provoke tension, UMNO actually used the Malay newspaper to spread hatred. IMMATURE!

Oh, tony, the Chinese must be grateful to be allowed to live in Malaysia? I almost puke when I read this. Without the Chinese, the natives will still be living in their fairytale jungle. Please, statistically, the Chinese earns the biggest profits and helps develop the nation. In return, the government disregards and taxes them heavily to aid the Bumiputeras. Who should be grateful here? BLOODY INGRATES!

The Chinese people across the world is a peace-loving group of people, although they could be annoyingly calculative and patriotic. But they do no harm. Why do the Malays feel they are threatened? Look at the Crime statistics, who are the majority of criminals? MALAYS!!
Malaysian first, Malay second - Greed n Racist Posted 15:15 on 1 July 2010
Chinese are fat greedy people..dont boast on your "biggers profit"..if not because of UMNO and Mahathir..where are those "biggers profit"?????? you can be big, but not biggest..Vincent Tan is still an Insurance by now, if not because of UMNO, there wont be Sunway lagoon and your "biggers Sunway"..."You Tell Lies" will only a housing contractor...stupid u, chinese wont remember what others had given them..they just greed and want MOREEE..

After you have all the economic control..now you wanna be Sultan or what..Malay is generous, take all you one..if you can..
Victoria - Justice Posted 22:37 on 10 December 2009
As an outsider : since the Chinese were bought to Malaysia by the British so they were first allowed into that country at the first place (at that time) without rejection by the Malaysia government, the Chinese then should be treated as the Malay citizens. This is so commensence, I think this should be applied to all Asia countries, once allow foreign people in or whatever reason they were in and accepted, they should be given an equal right to live and breathe. This is called human right regardless of their colours and cultures. What I saw at the Newspapers a few years ago, regarding what the Indo-Chinese women (including children and men)being badly tortured to death (including rapes) was unbelivable that some Native Indonesian thought they had such right to kill other human beings just because they are different to them and they do well and better than them. What I am trying to say here is that whatever disagreements or feel any unfairness...APPLYING THE MOST CIVILISED WAY TO RESOLVE BUT NOT KILLING. To me killing is only express ones anger in a negative way and just lower than animals NOT HUMAN BEINGS.
Kerry - .. Posted 8:33 on 27 March 2010
You're right about Chinese people not accepting marriage outside the race. I'm Chinese Singaporean, and my parents would absolutely slaughter me if my boyfriend wasn't Chinese. My BBC boyfriend's parents expect him to marry a Chinese too (or at the very least another East Asian).

Another thing about Malay and Indonesian people.. having grown up amongst them, I feel they hold Chinese people in high regard, since we tend to dominate the highest economic and social ladders. But at the same time they feel contempt for us, since we're "outsiders" brought in by the colonialists. They think the land doesn't belong to us so we shouldn't reap the most benefits. In a sense I agree; I'd be outraged if China was overtaken by, say, Japanese people.

In any case, racism is an ingrained human instinct. You can never stop people behaving like that.

Michael Chick: that was the most pointless chunk of gibberish I've ever tried to skim through, you sure have a lot of time on your hands.
KD - Heart broken Posted 20:22 on 13 July 2010
I'm not here to judge but to express my disappointment on fellow malaysian.

For those who says chinese are greedy or go back to china or says that malaysia actually belong to malays, i bet you're a typical malays.

I'm agree with nelson that Singapore are separated from Malaysia is because of UMNO disagreed with Lee Kuan Yew's policy to advocate egalitarianism. (PLS READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK)- to be more fair (READ BOTH MALAYSIA VERSION AND SINGAPORE VERSION on this matter)

To be more specific on why SG separated from malaysia is because they are afraid that the country will be rule by the chinese and took all the power off their hand.

Tony, if you think Chinese belong to china...do you think malays belong to malaysia?

if you says that malays are from malaysia, then you're so wrong. Until today, nobody know where malays are from and the first race that actually live in malaysia are the native(dayak and baba).

i don understand why are we argueing on something that isn't ours and not just live peacefully?

the gov has always promote malaysia as a multi-culture country where we are one. isn't it a little too hypocrite?

why do fault always be has to be the chinese? why isn't the malays? or the indian? or the dayak?

is it just because the chinese do better? if i'm a malay, i'll be ashamed of all of you.

i once heard a joke saying that "Don ever call the chinese to go back China or the indian to go back India or else the malays, you have to go back Cambodia"

i was shock by the joke but somehow it make sense. Do you know that Hang Jebat, Hang Tuah, Hang Lekiu the great warrior are chinese??

if you don't know or believe the prove is below...
http://www.yellowbamboohk.com/yellowbamboo/Origins%20of%20Hang%20Tuah%20by%20John%20Chow.html

this team scientists, archaeologist, historian and other technical staff from the United State, United Kingdom, Germany, Canada, Yemen & Russia are still finding the origin of malays but for sure it's not from malaysia.
IslandBoy - Kettle to the Pot? Posted 10:11 on 21 July 2010
Bitch please!! Those of you from Malaysia or Singapore - OWN UP! There are so many of you that discriminate against the local Indian population too. And please, don't even say that this doesn't happen. Save it for the Ms. Chinese-World pageant cause this fag ain't listening. You want to end racism in Malaysia? Well news flash! It starts with YOU!
erin - duh... Posted 4:38 on 19 February 2011
where do you think the malays come from then? outer space?

racism aside, i just don't see it why the word 'malay' could cause such a ruckus as if we don't have the right to even exist.
all these amateur historians, anthropologist, whatever, really get on my nerves with their 'all talk but lacking in factual substance'. come to think of it, malay coming from outer space could be a really good hypotesis for you such people don't you think? hahaha
Steve - Malaysia is as democratic as P Posted 16:26 on 13 October 2011
The only way to end racism is by enforcing law, using universal truth as the tool for the citizen to abide. However this scientific method does not work in Malaysia, or even China, because of cultural interaction established for hundreds of years. Especially in Malaysia where religion is the main tool used by politician to control the uneducated mass, truth and scientific social solution will not be thoroughly followed.

Malaysia is doom, the best Chinese can do now is to continue resisting and find a way to survive, like we always do.

The rich Chinese will immigrate or make more money while the poor will soon express themselves in the way they only know how. Inevitable social problem.
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