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Richer_By_Time



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: I'm Feeling rather Rejected Reply with quote

Hi, Long time since ive been on here, I have a problem and i need some advice and possibly, help.
Lately i have been feeling rather a lot of rejection from Oriental People, I approach them and ask them how they are etc, but i get a strange look from most of them.
I am confused, mainly worried if i am doing something wrong! But i need to ask you all whether yourselves (as respective oriental People) you feel wary of us due to the amount of rascism we are familier with in this country.
Any advice on how i can approach you? Because i am losing a lot of confidence now :cry:
(btw, i am a british White solely interested in china and their language.
Also, if you know any 18 year old chinese lasses around my area of Fareham, please notify me...
Thanks
Ding Yi Yan / Rich
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paul



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Location: rotherham, south yorkshire

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider this.

Walk up to a total stranger (a white english one) in the street and ask how they are.
Further try it with an 18 YO girl.

I suspect the result may not be that far removed from a strange look.

That or you will get arrested for kerb crawling. :lol:


Just for the record I'm also a white English chap but interested in the language and culture. That and it's good for business but I don't walk up to people I don't know and start ask how they are.

I assume the post was in jest - well I hope so.
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Richer_By_Time



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its mainly in clubs that i try and meet people, So you say your interested in the language as well? Perhaps if you have Msn messenger.. We could talk more about the interests? Meanwhilst, i shall try my best and see what happens..
Thanks
DYY
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paul



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been very lucky to meet many Chinese and Malay Chinese that have become friends over time. I have learnt so much from them and it's me that is the better off for it.
I got to know most of the local HK families years ago when I was fitting satellite systems. I found that they were great to do business with and the deals, conducted on a handshake, were stuck to like glue.
Wish all my customers were that good.
I am now a sound engineer and have found that over time chinese friends have suggested using me to local community groups. This has proven good for business as well and meeting even more new people.
I have just spent a very nice couple of days in London with a fantastic lady I met at one of these events. I suspect we will remain good friends for a very long time.
Just to make it clear the lady is a friend and nothing else - don't want anyone to get the wrong idea.
My ability to speak chinese is still very poor but I learn a little more each day as a result of using the language.
I seem to be trusted by the people I meet. This I consider a great compliment as I know that so many of the people I meet have been abused by the customers in the places they work.
I am off to Malaysia soon and will be meeting many Malay Chinese friends I have met over here. Even off to a wedding in Melaka. A couple I met over here have been so kind as to invite me along.
I have been known to lend a hand to a couple of people over here. These people have long memories and treated me so well when I visited malaysia last year.
Must go - I'm talking to a malay chinese friend in kl.
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Richer_By_Time



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to strike up a friendship with two chinese guys the other night whilst bowling, it seems like they maybe able to teach me chinese. Things are looking good so far, lets just hope i can finally get into the army!
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paul



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck with it but watch those 4 voices.
A wrong 'voice' can make the word mean something very much apart from what you meant.
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hello



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... I think it's great that you guys have an interest in the chinese culture but you just don't go up to a randomer and start asking them how they are... Haha... Sorry it's like 5 in the morning and I just think this is really funny...
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paul



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello wrote:
... I think it's great that you guys have an interest in the chinese culture but you just don't go up to a randomer and start asking them how they are... Haha... Sorry it's like 5 in the morning and I just think this is real :arrow: ly funny...


Is anything funny at 5 am ? :lol:

As I said before just walking up to someone in the street is a fine way to catch a funny look or two.
I tend to meet people though other people.
Went for dim sum with a lady who works at my favorite restaurant the other week. Just met her as I use the restaurant often and almost always go with other chinese friends.
As the dim sum menu is in chinese only my excuse is that I need someone to translate. The real reason is that I love dim sum and it's even better when in the company of a lady.
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songbook



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richer by the time, first of all don't call people Oriental. :x Carpets are Oriental, people are Asians. In Britain people think Asians are Indians, Pakistanis - Chinese are a separate race and therefore oh, so nice and polite and quiet and the women submissive. They don't really belong to the human race, they are on a pedestal, 'special', basically dehumanise them by not allowing them a full range of emotions and experiences. Chinese people are Asians. In America the word Oriental is outlawed because it has the air of fetishism and also colonisation.
Second, if you go up to 18 year old girls and start talking to them they will turn their eyes up at you, never mind what shape those eyes are. Perhaps you should try to talk to people your own age and show less eagerness about 18 year old girls. At best it makes you sound sad, at worse a bit of a perv. Just a tip, mate. :wink:
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paul



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

songbook wrote:
Richer by the time, first of all don't call people Oriental. :x Carpets are Oriental, people are Asians. In Britain people think Asians are Indians, Pakistanis - Chinese are a separate race and therefore oh, so nice and polite and quiet and the women submissive. They don't really belong to the human race, they are on a pedestal, 'special', basically dehumanise them by not allowing them a full range of emotions and experiences. Chinese people are Asians. In America the word Oriental is outlawed because it has the air of fetishism and also colonisation.
Second, if you go up to 18 year old girls and start talking to them they will turn their eyes up at you, never mind what shape those eyes are. Perhaps you should try to talk to people your own age and show less eagerness about 18 year old girls. At best it makes you sound sad, at worse a bit of a perv. Just a tip, mate. :wink:


In the UK we son't use asian to refer to chinese paople as you said but oriental is not too common. Some people with no sense or manners use chink but most use chinese.
The point being that chinese people are in thier own box but most don't understand that all chinese are not from hong kong and work in a take away.
I am in the happy position of being mates with many chinese fom all over the world and have taken the trouble to find out a little about their mindset.
The thing that I learnt first is that chinese (from where ever) and english have the same loves, hates and needs as each other.
That includes malaysia where I am as I type and many of the people know are from.
before I risk being a little sad myself I'm off to meet a mate, and yes, he's malay chinese.
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songbook



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am Asian myself and hate being called 'Oriental' and a lot of women do. And, yes, I know people have the same feelings all over the world, but people also tend to put 'Chinese' (that means all people who have East Asian looks) in the same bracket. You and I don't see eye to eye on many things, but that doesn't matter. I probably wouldn't fit into the nice, polite, quiet category that is expected but that doesn't matter either. At least I attract people who respect me as being an invidual who speaks up for myself.
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