Chinese mixed relationships - views please!

student10 · Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 13

i agree that the high road is for men to not be aggressive, but the fact is it is happening. so regardless of what we tell ourselves what the high road is, the problem is still there.

if all things being equal, between the caucasian man and the chinese man, i.e. u like the both equally, but the caucasian man attracts hostile behaviour from the locals, who would u rather be with?

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 763 Location: Beijing, PRC

student10 · Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 13

ur generalising a whole race of men as enslaving their women.
r u telling me that no white men have ever treated their women as slaves?
if anything chinese men are one of the nicest people to their women

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 763 Location: Beijing, PRC

All races have subjugated women but we have excelled most others with female infancide and selective feeding to favour sons above everything else.

Any reasonable study shows that there are 70 to 80 million females "missing" in the normal birthrates for Asia. This is particularly true for India, China and Pakistan. In some regions there are anywhere between 115 and 150 men to every 100 women.

Genocide is the deliberate distruction of a race. I dont know the name for the deliberate extermination of a gender but it is mass-murder by any definition.

Of course I generalise. I know some lovely Chinese men who would never dream of harming a woman but what happened to my 70 Million sisters?

student10 · Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 13

u have a point
anyway, instead of talking about this, i think its worth talking about flourishing in a largely non-chinese population

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 763 Location: Beijing, PRC

Well we might be flourishing a bit better if it wasnt for the female infantcide, selective abortion and feeding. However, there are still maybe two billion of us worldwide with probably 500,000 in the UK so we not doing so bad.

student10 · Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 13

well let's take a wider view on things
r we really flourishing or r we just surviving?

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

Principles costs 'dearly' and more easily say than done. In law if the judge knows that you are fighting for a principle, you will be a sure loser.

However, to live life any other way will be a lie to yourself. Compromise is great. Living life as a compromise, can sometimes costs too. If either way will costs me, I rather live life based upon my principles.

Follow your heart and if there is pain, it is pain you will willing accept in the name of 'Love'. At least you will not ly to yourself or your parents to make them happy.

The story of 'Romeo & Juliet' did not originate from Shakespeare, look into Chinese myths and histories for great love stories or great tragedies.

student10 · Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 13

romeo & juliet was a chinese story?
which one?

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 763 Location: Beijing, PRC

Most of them I think. Everyone dies in Chinese storys. I cannot think of an exact match but there are lots of storys where everyone dies or commit suicide over love.

joybetluck · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 206

Chunxueping says
“All races have subjugated women but we have excelled most others with female infancide and selective feeding to favour sons above everything else.”

I think there are many Chinese women who feel that they have been cheated at birth and there is a noticeable change in their behaviour in recent years as they become more globalise. From personal experience I feel their grievance is not without foundation but here is some interesting numbers to think about.

South Korea, nearly 80,000 female foetuses were aborted between 1986 and 1990, about 5 percent of all female births. In China, the number of male births per 100 female births had increased from 108.0 in late 1986 to 109.7 in 1991
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/PUBLICATIONS/factsheet/fsgender.htm

I recently read that South Korea has almost eliminated gender bias at birth but gender bias in China is worst than India or Pakistan as late as year 2000.

Is it all about money? Some people think so.
The report points to a greater lack of opportunities for girls and women in education and employment that contributes to disempowerment and poverty.
Estimated earnings for men and women
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6162959.stm

Returning to the discussion on interracial men/women relationship. I think these questions would provide some answers:-
1) To what extent are women treated and view themselves as chattel to be traded by their family and the place of the family within society?
2) What rights does women have and whether such rights are absolute?

Although such questions have long term implications, On day to day romance:-
Boys are Don Quixote thinking about chivalry - defending the rights of a maiden against oppressive power and control. Girls dream of being swept off their feet by tall dark handsome strangers. What are girls? Some say they are ripening fruits waiting to be eaten. Shocked

Chinese Romeo and Juliet?
Butterfly Lovers: A Tale of the Chinese Romeo and Juliet
http://www.amazon.com/Butterfly-Lovers-Chinese-Romeo-Juliet/dp/0966542 142

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 763 Location: Beijing, PRC

It is not bad feeling on my part or bitterness but my concern that inspite of our eternal contribution to this world we are still treated in a way that the law would prevent if another race, colour or sexuality encountered discrimination like this. All religions treat us as dirt or at best an evil temptation to divert men from their "holy and superior missions". The laws of work begrugingly provide us with so-call equal pay and opportunity but you try to claim on it. In popular culture the media openly portray us as "eye-candy" or sluts to be rape and murder. You watch TV any night and see how many women are "murder" in bizarre ways. We always the victims. We are entertainment.

In life our beloved parents do everything to prevent our conception, they wish for sons while we in womb, maybe we killed at birth, if not we can look forward to life of servitude fearing rape and murder at every turn. If we survive all this and our husbands tire of us they get younger woman. OK I know there are men who treasure us and love us dearly but the general situation for women world-wide is that we are barely better than slaves and breeding machines. Cattle are treated better in some countries.

We always "belong" to the men of our race. If we love a man from another race we are "selling out" or race-traitors. If a man from another race love us he "has yellow-fever", he is stealing "our" women. Yet our men can freely seek woman from another race, even applauded for doing so. In some countries now there is great concern that birth-rate is falling and the government is trying to encourage young woman to have more babies. The response from many women horrify men. They say, "OK if you expect me to have baby, you pay me full salary while I have baby, I not lose my job, position or pension. You pay for my medical care and the clothes I will need. You pay me benefits direct for bringing up baby and you pay for schooling." This is seen as most unreasonable but would a man do it for less?

I still hope for equal partnership with a loving companion but fear it will not be in this life.

T5unamie · Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 65

In short Viva la revolution for all women.

*salute

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