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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just quickly, on the issue of our numbers being low, and this suposedly justifying our lack of media profile: I've always felt that our media profile is actually non-existent and does not even reflect our low numbers. In other words, even if you allow for the fact that we are a smaller ethnic group, we are *still* under-represented, proportionately. Maybe someone can do the maths and back me up on this.

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I agree that porks is being negative here but I also think these are fairly common views amongst our community. There is an element of not wanting to rock the boat, not wanting to 'get above ourselves', fear of failure and its implications.

It's easier to point at a wall and explain why it can't be climbed, than to actually go up to the wall and start climbing it. Such is life.

At the end of the day, improving our media portrayal will be down to certain individuals with the drive, ambition and talent to climb over that wall and show how it is done. These people will probably not care very much what gets said on messageboards and websites, because to succeed in these areas requires inner determination and drive, but we should still encourage these people to come forward and give it their best shot.

Don't dwell on why the wall can't be climbed - support those who have the guts to give it a go.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SP, sound advice, I agree too!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

porkscratchings wrote:
I'm gonna be a pain and disagree -----

I personally don\t care if there are Chinese faces on East Enders. I don't want pple sticking Chinese characters here there and everywhere just to be politically correct, or sticking in crap actors just 'cause they happen to be Chinese.

Havng Chinese on TV is like having a sex scene on TV - it should only be on the screen if it is relevant to the plot/story or a chinese actor/actress is suited to play the character in question.


well said, mate
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tay wrote:
porkscratchings, it sounds like you are not very proud or happy with being what you are?

TV and film is about exposing and exploring ideas and stories and the actors help communicate this with the audience, with their acting abilities.

It is about encouraging and raising the profile of the community and encouraging people to seek their potential talent and not discourage. Your attitude is not very encouraging!


Tay, you appear to have some sort of an idea on how to raise the chinese profile. if you have, lets hear some. i for sure would like to get into showbusiness and maybe do a chinese documentary or something, i duno.....what you got in mind, mate?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I promise I am not trying to make light of the fact that the Chinese are poorly represented on television. I just thought, as a real cockney, you might like my views on the programme.

It is appaling rubbish that stereotypes everyone, including white Eastenders. I have lived in some of the poorest parts of East London and have taken a great deal of interest in the culture and history of East London. Some of the most obvious defects are:

White English people represent the majority on the programme. Never ever....unless you go back to when there were only villages, was the majority population of that area ethnically English. The English have always been a minority in East London. But not in Albert Square. If the show was to represent todays East End then the cast should be predominantly South Asian, followed by African and the largest "white" group would probably be Eastern European.

The Characters comprise a bunch of crooks, dimwits and losers. It perpetuates the class distinctions and myths that have characterised British society for hundreds of years. I actually find that cap doffing chirpy cockney, or the dodgy gangster, pretty offensive stereotypes.
My suggestion. Don't watch the bloody show.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GweiLo wrote:

. I actually find that cap doffing chirpy cockney, or the dodgy gangster, pretty offensive stereotypes.
My suggestion. Don't watch the bloody show.

I agree 100%. I reckon we can achieve our goals
without playing dull,lifeless stereotypes on Eastenders. In The UK, many people like to watch HK movies so when will we see "Made-in-The-UK Chinese "movies? Films so good that they'll be popular back in HK/ China/ Asia and even The States! We'll have our own big names/faces/directors!!!
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