Random Violent Attacks on Chinese Men

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

pensggs,

Talking about it is doing something about it. May be we can recognise the problems early enough take avoidance action before becoming a victim.

Edwina xx

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Here is the picture I get from my statistics research:-

I concentrated on whether the perception on crime in UK is justified. The conclusion is clearly Yes.

A comparison between the main country of origin of overseas chinese(Hong Kong) against UK and a few other comparable countries shows a stark contrast.

The main source of statistics is from www.nationmaster.com which is rather incomplete and the data is about 3 years ago. Missing data is gathered from news and other statistic sources.

The following table is in the format
{Nation, Police/1000, Prisoners/1000, Overall Crimes/year/1000, murders/yr/1000, Assaults/yr/1000, Burglaries/yr/1000, Rapes/yr/1000, drug offences/yr/1000}

Nation: US
Police: 2.90
Prisoners: 7.37
Crimes: 80.1
Murder: 0.0428
Assault: 7.57
Burglary: 7.10
Rapes: 0.301
Drugs: 5.60

Nation: UK
Police: 2.05
Prisoners: 1.14 (UK), 1.41 (Eng & Wales)
Crimes: 85.5
Murder: 0.0141
Assault: 7.46
Burglary: 13.8
Rape: 0.142
Drugs: 1834

Nation: Hong Kong
Police: 4.79
Prisoners: 1.84
Crimes: 11.7
Murder: 0.0055
Assault: 1.08
Burglary: 1.30
Rape: 0.015
Drugs: 0.340

Nation: Japan
Police: 1.81
Prisoners: 0.54
Crimes: 19.2
Murder: 0.0050
Assault: 0.34
Burglary: 2.32
Rape: 0.018
Drugs: 265

The UK Drug offense data look very fishy, why is it so enormous? So I did a little digging. It isn't surprising it is so large at all, and it isn't counted in the Overall Crimes data:-

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=740

Look at the graph (2004/2005) of 16-24 yr old drug use:
- 1 in 3 young men use Cannabis (class C drug)
- 7% young men, 3% young women use class A drugs mainly Cocaine and Ecstasy;

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

My personal experience with policing in this country is that it is up the creek.

Their computer systems do not function properly.

Their community police officers are incompetent beyond believe.

Criminal minds use the police for their own ends.

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 474 Location: Surrey, UK

"Perception" is critical word. One thing that the nationmaster website points out on virtually every page is:

"Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence."

I think that is true. A strongly regulated society with a police force that is widely perceived as benign and effective will have a high incidence of reported crime compared to one that does not. Also crime figures reflect nation’s laws. The drug crime rates shows that only Germany has higher rate that the UK (2509 per 1000 per year). Surely this indicate strong anti-drug laws in these countries as compared to countries with a relaxed attitude to say possession of cannabis. There is also something very strange about these figures as it seems to indicate that everyone commits 1.8 drug crimes per year in the UK. This cannot be so. It must be a limited number of people being charged with multiple offences.

A common argument by the NRA in USA is that gun crime rose in UK and Japan after possession of firearms was made illegal. Well yes when you introduce a new category of crime then the reported numbers will go up, that is true for any new offence. They say murder rates went up. Yes they did, in UK from about 50 per year (by gun) to 55 but mainly between criminals. In the US is it around 12,000 a year but a lot of that is between the general public. In Japan from about 5 a year to around 10 but this is presented as 100% increase.

I read somewhere that average person in UK commits ten crimes a day driving back and forward to work. That is not indication of widespread lawlessness but perhaps of over-regulation.

Chinese people in general are law abiding people from peaceful region of the world, like HK. We do encounter some discrimination and even unfortunately some violence depending where we live and we have perception of UK as being lawless compared to our well-ordered lives. But I feel is exactly that, a perception.

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Xue Ping,

I am rather frisked about crime & policing in UK at the moment, because last Thursday night, my neighbour's psychotic vandalistic son shot an air gun pellet through my kitchen glass door.

I reported the incident via telephone to the police after snapping 2 photos as evidence. One of the van, and one of that vandal as he got out of the returning van and up his garden path in the dark.

3 hours ago, 2 female community police officers called, and I thought great, at last they actually turn up after 8 days of inaction!

No, they called because they got complaints from people that I have been taking photos and walking indecently in my own house! How come the police never called me before in my whol life, and now these officers called !!!

Anyway, I explained that my immediate neighbours are a long time problem family and the psychotic vandal son. However, the lead officer insisted I listen to what she has to say to me and refused to step into my house because of what was said about me !!! I said why don't you just step inside and have a look at the bullet hole, and the photo evidence I gathered over the years. They refused !!!

What is the point of having police officers who do not look at evidence even when presented?

She basically said to me that I can find myself in court if I use the photos because of Human Right violation, and that because the date of the camera can be changed, I can be accused of ficking the evidence.

Having been told all this, she behaved as if she has not heard a single word and delivered this warning to me!!!

As for manpower to handle my case, she explained there are many other more urgent things the police has to do in High Wycombe !!!

No wonder the muslims want to bomb our country and the blacks want to murder the police!

Edwina xx

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 474 Location: Surrey, UK

Hi Edwina,

These CRS people have limited power and little more than Public Relations People in yellow jacket.

I would make a formal complaint. If you have been shot at then that is most serious and warrant proper police investigation.

The police dont like neighbourhood disputes. They always turn into "he said/I said" arguments so they normal try to provoke the most vulnerable into abuse or violence to settle the issue. I have used this to my advanage as my neighbour is a drug, abuse racist and easily provoked. I have often got her a night in the cells.

Id delete the last line of your posting or you be done for incitement.

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Crime, together we'll crack it:- Laughing

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/edwinapl/CrimeTogetherWeLlCrackItD

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 474 Location: Surrey, UK

The Day of the Jackal! Good job you got armourplate!

So why he take shot at you?

If I still had my old AK47 you could have borrowed it but the People's Army wanted it back...

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Xue Ping,

Some people's lives are so miserable, they need to pick on other people to get a kick.

In the case of this horrible fat teenager, when he was tiny, he used to make his mother scream "I'll kill you, I'll kill you" by putting faeces in his breakfast bowl. He has also destroyed his father's stone patio twice as a small boy, and destroyed part of my garden too.

The mother eventually ran off with a man leaving the horrible father and children behind.

Nowadays, that teenager is partly under control when his father is around watching. The father has had 3 failed marriages. Amazing thing is women keep falling this kind of guys.

The whole family are nutters.

In most towns in the UK, such families are common. You can tell by the defaced street signs, broken windows, burnt out houses, graffiti on walls, broken telephone boxes, supermarket trolleys in the rivers, . . .

This isn't limited to council estates, mainly because local authorities thought it was a good idea to spread these families in housing outside the council estates. So now we have them in all sorts of places.

I have never seen signs of vandalism in Hong Kong, but they are everywhere we go in the UK.

chunxueping · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 474 Location: Surrey, UK

Strange country is UK. We never have trouble like this in China.

Dont work, you dont eat, you die. Is simple and works. If you are good person with genuine needs then people will support you.

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 149

Racial discrimination by public bodies is illegal. Incidents whereby the overtones are racial, then, the police should treat these incidents seriously.

Edwina, you should report the first incident of harrassment immediately, followed by the next. At each report get an incident number. The police have to give you this. If they took no action, then their non action can be subjected to independent scrutiny. If their non action can be interpreted as 'racial discrimination', then there are laws in this country to deal with this. This is more rights than most country whereby the police are govern by political leaders. After two incidents, then a first record of 'harrassment' can be recorded. Harrassment of a racist nature is a serious crime; and if our 'nightmare' neighbours can be sued by you and have an injunction served upon them.

Know your citizen rights. This will ensure the police authority and individual police officers play by the rules of their paymaster ( that is us).

As to the police officer that had dealt with the incident being coloured by their personal agendas and feelings; then their remuneration and their 'inflation guaranteed pension' will be at risk for their criminal behaviour. There is no need to use the 'human bomb' and sacrifice oneself for any 'scums of humanity'.

Concerning the photos, it can only be 'voilation' of a person's human right if the photos are taken without permission and if it is not involve ourself in danger. As there are bullet holes in our house, I would suggest a formal report being made to the police and an incident number requested from the police. Followed that incident with a letter detailing former reporsts you had made to the police whereby they did not give you an incident nunber. Request information of records the police held of what they had done when you reported the incident. Copy this letter to your local MP. Make sure you have a record of the posting of these letters. Better still use the email facilities to communicate with the police and the MP. Then there is an electronic trace of your complaints and the police inaction.

The police is right. Digital images from digital cameras are not acceptable in Court as they can be altered and manipulated.

Use an 'Audit trail' techniques to protect yourself against your 'nightmare' neighbour and to record the inaction of the police. Police are civil servants and as our servants they are accountable to us by the UK law.

And lastly 'anger destroys ourself', keep calm and use the 'Strategies of War' by the ancient warrior, Sun Tzu to manage your problem.

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pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 149

Using the 'Art of War' by Sun Tzu

- Analyse the Conflict
- Estimate the Cost
- Develop a Strategy
- Position yourself for Victory
- Position your opponent for Defeat
- Use your environment to your advantage
- Manipulate for Advantage
- Sharpen your skill sets
- Continuous analysis of the situation and your environment during battle.
- Fight to win.
- Demolish the enemy, leave no opportunity for your enemy to kill you or return to harm you.

Finally, be generous to your enemy when you have disarm them or kill them. Pay for the cost of burial.

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Thank you Xue Ping and Pensggs for your comradeship support Very Happy

The Red Army AK47 solution is too quick and painless, so a more satisfying solution might be to grill the pig on a spit with an acetelyene torch from toes and fingers upwards, but the squealing would not harmonise with my beautiful quitar, so I'll give that a miss.

The Art of War is of course a great book of ultimate warfare for conquest. The idea of certain victory 必勝 and have no enemy alive (Robert Vaugh in The Magnificent Seven)is very appealing. However, the strategies of Weiqi is more suitable for my situation. It is more chinese as well as more international. The poet who wrote Desiderata also would agree with me "avoid loud and agressive persons". It is very easy to under estimate the opponent in a fight ending in a Pyrric Victory. The Americans taught us that over and over again.

There is no prize for winning in this situation as these people are my immediate neighbours.

I just have to make up my mind of where I want to live. I've been thinking for many years now Laughing

The material damage is tiny compare to my means.

Many thanks for your support.

Edwina xx

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Believe it or not, a lady police officer turned up today to take a statement in my house! It took a staggering 1 hr 15 mins.

It convinced me that the police methods for community vandalism is totally ineffective, and police officers are generally very poor ambassadors.

I talked to a friendly lady at my local takeaway on saturaday night. Her sister had to move out of London because of youths gathering on her stairway, pushing faeces through her door, making abuses and issuing death threats.

Edwina Lee · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 632 Location: High Wycombe, UK

The murder rate is really staggering:

Miss Xie (MSc) from China beheaded (2008-08-01)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7538278.stm

Miss Xi Zhou (Msc) + Boy friend (Sc) both from China
[died from head injuries) (2008-08-11)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7553103.stm

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