Random Violent Attacks on Chinese Men

Kong · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Location: Sheffield

Hey, i found it. Leeds is in south-yorkshire. Cudn't be bother to type it up. Here it is. The appalling situation where i live and what the northern whites do to foreigners, and its quite recent.

A Chinese family living in Leeds have been shouted at in the street, had food thrown at them and windows smashed at their home in Harehills.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7505979.stm

There is going to be a report out in October that examines the racism problem that chinese people have in this country. This is a proffessionally commissioned report and the first one ever in respect of chinese community. I don't think its going to be any thing spectaclur, such as chinese men get discriminated more and chinese women get it less. I have examined racist statistic before, and usually its this way.

Kong · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Location: Sheffield

Heres more racist violence towards chinese men! Bear in mind that this happens thousands of times everyday in the UK with racist insults and discrimination, most violent crimes go unreported! So whats happenning this year then in the UK! Here the latest violence on girly-boy chinese men who shouldnt fight back when a white man say so, in 2008!

In a pub! Your not welcome! Dont touch white women, but we can touch yours!
http://www.northantset.co.uk/news/Corby-man39s-skull-fractured-in.4366 467.jp

Mistaken Chink!
http://paihnews.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/horrific-racist-attack-in-a-g lasgow-park/

A report of chinese racism, the last report! 2004 somethin.
http://www.isja.org.uk/articles_8_gcch.pdf

States that we are more likely than any other minority group of getting racial harassment (lets make this more CLEARER, more than BLACKS, INDIAN, PAKISTANI, every other ethnicity etc) and property damage, and more likely to date white men! The sense of injustice, lol! Jokin! Looks like it doesnt represent the intergration ideal of London.

A report on chinese racism - "State of Denial" - a report on racism against the UK Chinese community. Expected publish date Oct 2008. Cant find it!
http://www.monitoring-group.co.uk/news/2008/3/17/state-of-denial-a-rep ort-on-racism-against-the-uk-chinese-co.html

Actually since the last post, to mention a few instances, i had another racist incidence. I went to blackpool. I knew there was goin to be trouble because it was a white place. It was my mates party, so i went along with them. That night this white guy was taking the mick out of me wearing a wig and coming on to me like i was gay (Gok Wan stereotype). In the nightclub he stole my glasses ran around the club with it for 10 minutes while i chased him, i ask him to give me it back, he didnt so i asked my big white mate to get it off him and he did (because he respect the opinion of another white), after he spat and wiped the glasses with his shirt, he was also pretenting to stomp on my glasses and making chimp noises, like we dont have a culture, he probaly thought that we learnt it all from the whites. I didnt tell my friends because i didnt want trouble that night, there were at least 10 of us, enough to woop him. Anyway i was only there for one night, so it probably wasnt worth it. He was using some intimidating behaviour on me and pushing me everytime he saw me and calling me a chink a couple of times with the usual broken english and chinese accent 'wa' sound, and hands in a praying position and bowing, laughin away. I suppose im more exposed to racist behaviour because i go out to nightclubs quite alot. I dont think about it too much. Its just a way of life over here. I know alot of my chinese male friends do not speak about racism. Maybe because it can seem rude to talk about personal problem with other people.

This is only the UK. There are so many more violent incidents in regards the treatment of our chinese cousin, typically chinese male oriented crime in other european countries. These are just a few mentioned here. Feel British? Not me!

Fruityboy · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 217 Location: London

Kong

Grow a pair FFS! Knock that guy the fck out! Or are you one of those stereotypical weak Chinese males?

Kong · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Location: Sheffield

fruity boy

I should of done something, but nowadays i just ignore it. Wen i was younger racism happens quite alot. I dont want to be a angry young man like i used to be, and besides there are so many white people to fight with all the time, and it is impossible to fight with everyone, and people change its envitable. I just accept it the way it is, and hope the lord sort it out, eventually. When someone says racist comments, I do defend myself and maybe throw in a 'F off' now again, but is it worth getting all frustrated about, and is it really having affect on them. I feel more secure, spirtually and culturally, and wen they insult me, it does not have the impact like it used to. Like the other day, i was on a bus goin to work. What would you do when a little 7 year white boys, says 'chinese people look funny, i dont like them, funny looking people, chinky, chinaman. etc' to another white kid. Should i kick the sh*t out of him because of the parent opinion on chinese people, it was obvious it isnt his own opinion, he must of got it somewhere. There have been many instances of white women saying racist commments towards me, should i throw a fit, get all fired up, its a situation that i try to avoid and not a position any one would like to be in. When i was younger i go out all and turn into a manic rage, and then threaten them. I was that close to beating up some white women, and its infuriating to be put in a position like that, and not because she called me a chink. My attitude was 'the end justify the means' but its not now. I dont like other people having control over my emotions, nowadays i try to laugh at them instead, the most effective dipomatic tool, but even this has it limits.

Fighting with every1 its nearly impossible, i try to remember racist incident happenning this year alone, the ones i can remember from the top of my memory! Bear in mind i never start it.

* Tramp said something to me and i actually flipped out and fought with him

* A group of white women in the club calling me a chink

* Crazy white man on a bus, having a tantrum about chinese and immigrants, the black bus driver kicked him of the bus, quite funny.

* 2x In amsterdam some white people from the UK was calling us chinky and laughing away etc.

* At my university, someone was playing a chinese racist song, i confronted them and they were acting cocky, they ran away from the library, i reported them.

* Chinese party: some white guy standing outside using the famous british quirky humor, she didnt hav any id so the bouncer was goin 2 chuck her out, but then the white guy said, she does have id like 'spicy king prawn black bean sauce' and the bouncer said that rude, and let her back in and confronting the other white man, gentlemany bouncer.

* 500 x Typical racist insult 'chinky' and before you know whats happened, hes/she already walk 50 metres down the road. Is it worth it! To chase him and then hav a go at him/her! Very Common!

Few years ago

* Random white man setting a dog on me and hiding behind his dog on a leash and calling him a 'chink' saying i going to kill your family, in centre of town in broad daylight. Very threatening.

* Random white man punched me for no reason in a club and said he was on cocaine and fought him as well, lucky his mate didnt join in and he wasnt in much of a fight, mentioned previous post.

* White people driving in a car throwing rubbish at me and hit me on the head it was a can.

* White people driving along the road and scream chinky, and someother pretenious chinese language.

* White boy quite threaten me while i was at the bus stop, really threaten, not your average 'chinky' then walk off, before you even realise, actually pointing and everything, threating to use a bar on me he was carrying.

However, i am gettin racism less than i used to, but im not sure if its to do with positive image of china, or its becoz i quite built or that i gettin older and the younger kids just leave me alone. However, i will still be a magnet for racist, and white people who want to take a shot, as long as i live in this country.

Edwina Lee · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject:

Looks like the statistics are moving closer to me now. Confused

Yesterday at 08:00, a murder took place in my road. The guy was found slumped in his drive with knife wounds in his neck.

The turkey is not crying for an early Xmas, but an early Xmas may be crying for a turkey Sad

ex-VAG · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 445

Edwina Lee · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject:

ex-VAG,

It is good that Kong wrote down specific incidents like these.

Racism towards the chinese is definitely a reality, but not everyone has it so bad. If Kong doesn't enumerate these incidents, we would never know, and nothing would get done about it.

Edwina xx

Jeff Minter · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 342

Wow, kong certainly has had it bad!

I don't get why you haven't reported these to the police or through the council... every one should have a race harassment (or similar) form. The yobs on the street are more common and pretty much attack anyone they want, but obviously your race and their strength in numbers will make their decision to pounce on someone far easier. Just keep hassling the police, council and local Govt. (write to your MP, mayor etc) - and they WILL increase patrols, and take action. There is also a financial compensation fund for those who have suffered discrimination, go to your CAB for advice.

It's true that racism is far more prevalent and acceptable in nightlife - it seems that with so many blacks and asians having the nerve(!) to talk to white girls, they have to stand up to some sort of foreigner - chinese men seem perfectly acceptable in this way, since even the media have totally ignored them and not given them the precious "it's wrong" status that blacks and asians have long since enjoyed. I don't know how to advise you on this - if it's just words, then always respond back in kind - if they're high or drunk, it's more likely they're going to want to hurt you. Certainly in a cramped, busy and out of control environment like pubs and clubs, it would be a nightmare for you to have a mark on your head.

It's far worse in Germany though; I went there for a few weeks for work, and while professionally it's all above board and kosher, I recieved a crapload of abuse on trains, the street and even getting accomodation - that transcends language. Who knows how worse it would have been if I actually understood them. Ironically, on my twice night life experience there, it was fine. I was accompanied by two, white anglo saxons though.

Kong · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Location: Sheffield

I have to agree with you jeff miniter.

To ex-Vag
I respect your personal testimony, and it may mean something to u, but it is not a valid reasoning in respect of this issue. This was a study conducted by a respected university, and unlike ur personal experience does not reflect how the rest of the chinese population is treated in the UK. Unless your the type to go against authority figures or have ur own research to substantiate this.

Read the report it states that: Nationally, chinese people as whole *Are more likely than any other minority ethnic group to be subject to racial harassment and racially motivated property damage (16% of Chinese adults) (Modood et al 1997:266)

http://www.isja.org.uk/articles_8_gcch.pdf

I never start anything. Im a nice person but i happen to be another race. Clearly there will be people who get offended with the colour of my skin. Its always white people with racial superiority that start it first, and you know that. Racism does happen. It a list of what happened over the years within a space about 5 years, not including 500 x typical racist insults, that probably spans my lifetime. Read the report, it will happen, but probably not wen you are hanging around other whites. It may also be the fact they know you speak english. And again i respect ur opinion because it is your personal testimony, but this reasoning cannot be used for how the majority is treated.

If you do not accept the finding, then its like accepting that racism does not exist for the chinese community, and that whatever happens to other chinese people is irrelant, erased by the ur personal fact, and behaviour such as property damage and violence, racial harrassement is acceptable as long as white people are doing it. We must first recognize the problem, in order for us to do something about it.

Refer to the statistic 'ex-vag', if it is likely to happen, then something of the things i say is more plausible. Regardless, if you do not believe my true life stories or not!

ex-VAG · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 445

I'm not interested in statistics Kong, they can be manipulated to shwo whatever you want, Edwina will vouch for that Very Happy

Statistics mean nothing and action everything, you should meet these aggressors head on, fight fire with fire. Trust me if they're in a group and you take out the mouthy one, the others will scatter. And yes I tell you this from experience!
Once you've done it once, it will be easier and you will hold your head up higher, people will see this confidence and you will have troubles no more.

Alternatively, take the sh*t, keep moaning and wait for someone else to do something.

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

There are racists everywhere and at every corner. It happens too in our own backyard.

If you are being racially abused or harassed by a person allowed into a club or a commercial establishment, there is a 'health and safety'issue. The said 'establishment' should be seen to ensure the 'health and safety' of their customers.

REPORT THE INCIDENT TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SAID PREMISES.

iF the said establishment does nothing, then they are deemed to encourage this anti social behaviour and can be held responsible for any harm to you. Take a test case if you want to be counted, and claim 'damges' against these establishment.

MONEY TALKS LOUDLY. HURT THEM IN THE POCKET & THE RACISTS WILL BE DRIVEN OUT OF ANY CREDIBLE CLUBS OR PUBS.

Act criminally you will now have blurred the issues and the RACISTS BECOMES THE WINNER. Watch them turn your action against you. Now the police have the right to use your actions against you.

HOW ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Well, racists exists in the police too. Their eyes, brains, memory and actions can be selective. Give all racists, hidden or upfront, no hiding place and no excuse. The law has to be seen to be 'FAIR', use them to your advantage.

Two 'Wrongs' do not make a 'Right'.

Jeff Minter · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 342

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

Jeff

how about the lady that tripped on a petal, and recieved compensation for the 'physical injury'. Who paid her legal bills? If you suffered injury ( physical or mental ) caused by lack of 'duty of care' and especially if it related to a health and safety issue, there are lawyers out there, who might take the case on the basis of 'no win, no fee' basis.

Also, this is UK. There is the facility whereby you can be a 'litigant' in person; if you feel strongly enough about your losses or injuries. Whether you are able to be a litigant in person depends on yourself. ( Thus speaks a person who had used this facility more than once and I am not legally qualified ). If you feel strongly enough about something, then it is up to you.

When a crime number is issued it is counted in the police statistics. This goes towards the appraisal of the said police authority. When enough people complain about the same 'club' or 'incidents'; the police have to be seen to act. Your individual incident might get no result but the combination of the same reported incidents will at least blight the police authority's record.

Passively complaining just makes one into a 'whinger'.

joybetluck · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 206

While it is easier to get compensation for physical injury, injury to feelings is much more traumatic although much more difficult to prove and substantiate in court in the past.
Do not be fob off by off handed remarks such as you are lucky you are not in hospital.
It has been scientifically proven that an episode of embarassement can have far greater effect on your development and is retained in the memory for longer period than physical pain suffered.
So look after yourself not just physically but mentally too by avoiding distressful situation.
Not all experience is beneficial! Wink

Why sticks and stones DON'T hurt as much as words
The participants wrote accounts of the experiences and then underwent psychological testing to compare how much pain they felt then and now.
The analysis revealed that the pain caused by an unpleasant social event remained consistently more vivid in the mind than that from a physical injury.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1050291/Why-sticks-ston es-DONT-hurt-words.html

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