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GweiLo
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 Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think we all know the one LaoFuZhi means.
You might try the guys at www.britishchinese.org.uk where those problems don't exist, albeit you'll also find a range of views. One advantage is that they are a member based organisation so the members are not anonymous and cannot be racist without also being identified.
If you have a questionaire I might be able to persuade my wife to fill it in. She came here from Malaysia in the mid 1980's |
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scotty
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Many thanks. I am still working on the questionnare, but once it is done, I'll definitely post it. |
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LaoFuZhi
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You might try the guys at www.britishchinese.org.uk where those problems don't exist, albeit you'll also find a range of views. One advantage is that they are a member based organisation so the members are not anonymous and cannot be racist without also being identified. |
Good to see a relatively fresh attempt at establishing a British-Chinese forum. At the risk of seeming churlish though can I just say that there seems to be little in the way of structured sections.....
Two events sections, a suggestions and ideas one and 'Uncle Wong' ?????? Am I Missing something?
I also registered for the forum. I made a point of registering under my real name but wasn't asked for any personal details other than an email address.... I could equally well have used an alias! |
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GweiLo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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LaoFuZhi,
Although I am too busy to be involved these days I helped set up the British Chinese Society, so I can explain a bit about it and why its forum pages are as you find them.
A Group of us used to organise social events through another site. That site is owned by an individual and has no democratic structure. There was conflict with the site owner over a number of matters and those of us doing the organising decided we needed to put a structure in place to ensure that whatever we did the Chinese Comunity would get thier say.
We set up the society as a membership based organisation and an elected management committee. We made a decision that we were not going to provide services to the community that were being catered for elsewhere, and as you know there are forums catering for general discussion amongst the Chinese community.
The website, and the forums, are therefore purposely not designed for general discussion (indeed you will find that only certain people can start a new thread there), but solely as means of communicating with members.
What the society does is to organise social events, cultural events, and raise money for Chinese charitable organisations. |
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LaoFuZhi
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| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the explanation.
The aims and objectives of the society seem very worthwhile. I'm not much one for social events myself, but anything that helps build bridges between individuals and sections of the community is a good thing IMHO.
I wish you and your fellow memebers well with it. |
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malnoh
Joined: 05 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I would suggest the researchers here contemplating on studying British Chinese identity to look at Parker's book "Through different eyes: the cultural identities of young Chinese people in Britain". Also look at Song's book "Helping out" (I thinks).
Besides, the study of identity is best done with indepth case studies rather than a (semi)structured questionnaire. |
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scotty
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| thank you, also 'Sons of the Yellow Emperor' was very useful in looking at the History of overseas Chinese up to the present. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: British Born Chinese Project! |
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Hi,
I am a university student doing research on the Chinese experience in London, and am in need of data that can help me to formulate the attitudes of BBC's. In this capacity, I require interviews with BBC's, both online and personal, and was wondering if you could forward me the responses to your survey. If you require more information on the nature of my project please let me know. Many Thanks
| Calisia wrote: | Hello, to all the BBC's out there! I am doing a project which is quite interesting, which is to find out the identities of the British born chinese. Ive seen that many of the discussions in here do talk about the different cultures between British and Chinese, and i find that there have been many confusions about peoples own identitiy! So i decided to do a project based on the BBC's, of trying to find out their identities and how they are formed. Below is a questionnare of my research, if you have time, pleaseplease.. spare some moments to fill it out and send it back to me! It would be very much appreciated!! Thankyou sooo... much!!
QUESTIONNAIRE
Gender:
Age:
Questions within the Family
1. What is the occupation of your Parents?
2. Would you see yourself more as a Chinese or English person?
3. How often do u eat Chinese food within the home?
4. How often do u eat Chinese food outside of the home?
5. Did you ever go to a Chinese school and did u enjoy it?
6. How well can u read and write Chinese?
7. How well do u feel u can speak the Chinese language?
8. How often do u speak Chinese within the home?
9. How often do u speak English within the home?
10. On average, do u think u speak more of Chinese or English?
11. Does your family celebrate Chinese events? E.g. Chinese New Year?
12. Are Chinese celebrations important to you?
Questions of Personal interest
13. Do you keep up to date with the Hong Kong news?
14. Are you a fan of any Chinese actors or Chinese pop-stars?
15. Do u see them as an idol and do they relate to your everyday life in any way?
16. How often do you listen to Chinese music or watch Chinese movies?
17. What are your favourite leisure activities?
18. Do u cook any Chinese food yourself? (Excluding Chinese takeaway foods)
19. What nationalities are your closet friends?
20. What clubs or organizations (if any) do u belong to?
21. How would u see yourself while you are with friends that are not Chinese? (E.g., 22. would u see yourself more as a Chinese or English person)
22. What part in the Chinese culture would u teach your children?
23. Would u prefer you partner to be Chinese, and if not, specify other?
24. Explain why you would prefer your partner to be Chinese or the other in which u have specified?
Questions of Racism
25. Are you Proud to be Chinese?
26. Have u ever faced any difficulties being Chinese?
27. Have u ever been attacked by any Racial Discrimination?
28. If yes, what specific incidents can u remember?
29. How did u over come the incident?
30. Do u think that Chinese people face the least or most discrimination than other ethnic groups in Britain?
31. Explain why?
32. Have u ever felt in your own experience, situations and opportunities where u felt lead to racial inequalities? (e.g. within the work place, in schools, while shopping etc)
33. Have u ever felt excluded from the British Society?
34. Which country do u feel you would eventually settle in future?
35. What do u think people think of the Chinese culture in Britain?
36. How important is being of Chinese origin to you?
37. Do u feel a sense of belonging in Britain?
Thankyou once again! ^_^ |
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malnoh
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| scotty wrote: | | thank you, also 'Sons of the Yellow Emperor' was very useful in looking at the History of overseas Chinese up to the present. |
Had a brief look at that it and it seems OK, I think it may be someone's reworked thesis.
But I don't like the phrase 'the Chinese dispora' - it's like 'paradigm shift', 'entrepreneurial spirit', 'innovation' etc... over used words and often in the wrong context.
If you really want to look at the British Chinese experience you should not read too much into the North American Chinese works as their development is much different than the Chinese in the UK. |
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scotty
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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yup I agree, the book is good for background, but concentrates too much on S.E. Asia and not enough about elsewhere, and North American research does sometimes seem quite different.
I have some modern stuff too, a piece of research about adolescent Chinese identity in the UK, and another one I haven't looked at yet called Chinatown, Europe, if you are interested.
I AM quite interested in what you think of the phrase 'diaspora' Is it because it's just an umberella term, or are there connotations to it that I am not aware of? There seem to be two camps in Sinology literature, either it's not mentioned at all, or it's on pretty much every page! |
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malnoh
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like the word 'dispora' because the original meaning apply to something different other than in (most of) the Chinese context. It is originally used to descirbe the Jews(?) forced to be oustricize by some king or pharaoh. In the Chinese case, they left on their own free will to seek greener pastures and for most instances the first Chinese immigrants maintained a sojourner mentality, that they would go 'home' after making some money. I think people over exaggerate the use of term 'dispora' to mean mass immigration and it sounds good.
I am interested in those two peices of work you have. Can you send them to me by e-mail? PM me if you can and I'll give you my e-mail address. |
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scotty
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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another book about a girl of Chinese descent in the West is 'On not speaking Chinese' By Ien Ang. It's quite interesting, although it's cultural studies perspective confuses the hell out of me sometimes. She loves the Diaspora thingy though.
On another note, does anyone know where I can get some decent statistics (preferably for free) on BBCs and other Chinese populations in the UK? |
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