Britain: Full of alcoholics and sex diseases?? ;)

sp · Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 218

Two recent news stories have highlighted the prevalence and sexually transmitted diseases ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2975626.stm ) and alcoholism ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2980824.stm )in the UK. And you thought HK was dangerous? ;)

Whilst Chinese culture seems to revolve around food, British culture does seem to revolve around alcohol, doesn't it?

assis104s · Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 145

It's a good thing that British culture doesn't revolve around it's food...it's terrible!

Guest · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject:

Chinese culture also revolves around gambling......big problem with Chinese people.....

Ah Rong

tenpence · Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 174

how much does gambling affect Chinese in the uk? do you know many BBC's that gamble?

Guest · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 8:41 am Post subject:

Many BBCs gamble, but it's mainly our parents who gamble the most.

Go to any city casino after 12am and you will see a lot of Chinese people.

Gambling addiction is slowly being recognised as a problem in the Chinese community.

I've seen a few families ruined by gambling.

Ah Rong

kwls · Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 3 Location: KL

Ah Rong mentioned that "Chinese culture also revolves around gambling......big problem with Chinese people....."

I just thought that's a very racist statement. Caucasian or any other races love to gamble too. Have you been to Las Vegas?

Regards,
Kelly

eye_candy1870 · Joined: 08 May 2003 Posts: 86

Kelly,

i see youre in KL, Malaysia. Out of interest, do you know who vincent chong is? he won the singing talent contest Akademi (not sure if spelling is correct).

Reason for asking is my brother is dating this guys sister and he says hes a big star there. i just wondered if my brother is bullshitting.

mojo · Guest

Just because one country has XY and Z problems doesn't mean other countries don't suffer from the same problem. There's just better goverment cover-ups and ingorance. You don't hear much about AIDS in China and the whole SARS thing was kept quiet initially.

kwls · Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 3 Location: KL

Hi Candy,

How do things go with you? Any fun recently?

I do not follow the Chinese entertainment at all hence I have the slightest clue on who is who.

An introduction to the Chinese ethnic in Malaysia, btw are the 2nd largest over here. We are in a way quite segregated and are usually sub-categorised into the "Chinese educated" and "English educated". Those who are English educated are more inclined towards the western cultures ie. we speak English, we read English newspapers, we do not follow the Chinese/Canto entertainment cos we have no idea what they say, and etc. Guess you get my idea by now...:-) And we are called the "bananas". Cute isn't it? ;) 10 years ago, people like me suffered the same fate just as the BBC whereby we were not even accepted in our own community and sometimes among the family members. It's hard to describe but such situation has improved over the long years. Malaysia is a very multi-racial and multi-cultural country and the younger generations are mostly from mixed parentage. Having said that, we believe that in time to come, there will be only one race, not Chinese, Indians, Malays or whatever. It is also important to note that we would prefer to call ourselves as Malaysian, not by the race.

Regards,
Kelly

Guest · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject:

Kelly,

So you don't think it's important to learn about your culture or your parent's culture or even your grandparents culture.

Do ethinically Chinese Malays have any problems being Chinese in Malaysia or is everything hunky dory?

Wtih regards to Chinese people and gambling, I am not saying that nobody else likes to gamble. I am not saying that Chinese peole or the only people with gambling problems. All I am saying that in my view gambling is a problem with Chinese, from any country actually.

Ah Rong

eye_candy1870 · Joined: 08 May 2003 Posts: 86

Kelly,

I was born in Penang and moved to UK when i was 7. I know all about Malaysian life, so I dont need a history lesson.

I assume you fall within the 'English educated' bracket (whatever that is?) Akademi was on national TV in Malaysia for a long time. So it doesnt matter what kind of education you have, dont you watch TV there?

BTW KL people usually can speak cantonese, so i dont know what youre chatting about saying they cant understand canto entertainment...

MR informed

oik · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 12 Location: london

i have to say that i for once am almost agreeing with eye candy here - all the malaysians [chinese mostly] i know are familiar with both western entertainment and anything mando/canto as well.

i'm not familiar with those who are 'chinese' educated only - my malaysian freinds dont seem to have acknowledged this to me either - and they seem to be pretty well rounded in their education and keep upto date with anything in and out of their country [which may make more 'open mminded' than some of their 'neighbours'..]..

penang is a very pretty place..

GweiLo · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 149

I think you are all being unfair with Kelly. Her experiences are similar to my wifes and she was born and lived in KL until she was 18 years old.

We checked with her siblings back in KL and they have never watched Akademi or heard of vincent chong. Lke Kelly they aren't interested in Cantopop, it isn't part of their culture, not of thier parents culture. None have any links with HK, both sides of the family have been in Malaysia for at least five generations.

I can't speak for Kelly, but my wifes culture is Malaysian. Her parents first language wasn't cantonese, in fact when they met thier only shared language was English. Hence my wife and her family have always spoken English at home, enjoyed English language entertainment. Her grandparents spoke English as well as thier own chinese dialects. Assuming my wife were to learn about her parents culture then musically that would mean learning about Frank Sinatra etc, that is what her parents listened to (and still do).

A lot of Chinese Malaysians consider themselves Malaysian first and Chinese second. Many of them have English as thier first language, Malay as thier second, and have picked up some Cantonese despite it not being the language of thier ancestors. They have been taught in English, grown up speaking English (well Manglish really). There culture is what it is, and is what thier parents, grandparents and in many instances grea grea great great grandparent created.

Give the girl a break. She is telling you about what her life is like, she doesn't need you lot telling her what it ought to be like. She has her own distinct culture, Malaysian culture, that contains aspects of Chinese, Malay, Indian and even some remnants of British influence. She is happy with it, probably proud of it, that is all that matters.

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