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darntart



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: how do you deal with office politics? Reply with quote

engage, ignore, suffer?
i Reckon sometimes it's a good thing, but it can be a real hassle too. How do you guys deal with it all?
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siu mai



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ignore it if i can!!!
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Jeff Minter



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the situation, surely?

You have to weigh up the possible consequences in you participating, or whether you can afford to be "left out", as the risk of your "status" in the "social ladder".

As you can tell from my liberal use of quotes, I think all this office politics is bullcrap. Thank heavens I haven't been in one for a while... bitch, bitch, bitch. The fumes from the photocopying machine are to blame.
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Edwina Lee
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Office Politics is Modern Warfare !
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ex-VAG



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ignore it, hate all of that sh*t and everyone knows it, if they want impartial advice or unbiased opinion they all know to come to me Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would go to ex vag and say "give me all your money, this is a stick up" ahah
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Mark-gor



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, it's all crap, but it's human nature isn't it? Is there any arena, work or otherwise, where politics are entirely absent?

There are two texts that are regularly bought by managers in organisations the world over in order to further themselves. They describe how to thwart your enemy and ensure your own success. E.g. keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

One is The Prince, by Italian author Nicolo Machiavelli in the 16th century. (It's where the adjective Machiavellian comes from of course). Typical western double dealing one might think.

The other is a little older than that. From before 100 BC. Written by someone probably a little more relevant to most of us here: Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

Yep, politics in everyday life can be ruthless and cruel, but we Chinese can sure as hell hold our own!
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Edwina Lee
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Let the enemy defeat itself."
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ex-VAG



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Edwina there, there have been occasions where if you give someone enough rope they'll hang themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your venerable support ex-VAG!

Now can you dig this?

"when enemy would not defeat itself, be nimble footed between Judo and Karate styles"
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ex-VAG



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that some kind of passive agressive stance?
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Edwina Lee
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex-VAG wrote:
Is that some kind of passive agressive stance?


Not so Kato.

Judo is like the rolling waves. It uses the momentum of an attack to foil the attack. Surprised

Karate uses hard force, speed and surprise to destroy a weaker enemy. Mad

The problem with Karate is that the enemy ends up too debilitated to tell you how much it admires your superiority. Rolling Eyes
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ex-VAG



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're mixing Judo for Aikido, which uses the attackers forces against themselves.

So in summary, I think you're err-ing on the side of Jeet Kune Do, which is the art that the great man himself perfected, takes all the best bits of the various arts and simplifies them to make them more effective.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The styles you mentioned is a combination of Judo, Karate and weaponry styles.

Judo and Karate are pure styles of hand combat.

Judo only has throws and floor locks.
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ex-VAG



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The intricacies we can't talk about at length here, it would mean too much typing
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