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Goodedge
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What contributes to war are people like chunxueping who have no idea about the world and are completely brain washed who are too lazy to do their own independant research but instead let other people feed it to them (the main media or friends) then they take it as frigging gospel, believe in it not knowing for sure if its true then go on forums to have their opinions heard, what imbeciles!!! and get angry at people for taking time out to educate them 
chunxueping said 'the Iraq war had the blessing of the UN'.... so ... she must be right about 9/11 too and Im wrong...LOL!!!! |
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joybetluck
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Hi Goodedge, You may be passonate about your subject but there is no need to use bullying tactics.
I think you own chunxueping an apology.
As for facts, proof and logic, we are mostly amateurs and what is important is not so much the rightness or wrongness but to understand and learn from how we come to arrive at a certain perspective.
Chunxueping I did not say you are ignorant but only to say I am happy to live in ignorant about the true cause of the Civil War but would not mind if someone take the trouble to inform me of what really happened.  |
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Lois Hashimoto
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Location: Laval, QC,Canada
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Tibet |
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An apology would be nice, but I would much prefer to read Goodedge's "proof" that in order to get public support for an invasion of Iraq, they [the USA] had to "fake 9/11" and by doing so, killed 3000 of their own to win the public's support for the invasion .
Come on, Goodedge, since you slammed Chunxueping for being brainwashed and incapable of doing independent research, let's hear how much independent research you did to come up with your astounding claims. Let's hear your "proof" that the Islamic suicide bombers of 9/11 were actually serving American interests.
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Goodedge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| joybetluck wrote: | Hi Goodedge, You may be passonate about your subject but there is no need to use bullying tactics.
I think you own chunxueping an apology.
As for facts, proof and logic, we are mostly amateurs and what is important is not so much the rightness or wrongness but to understand and learn from how we come to arrive at a certain perspective.
Chunxueping I did not say you are ignorant but only to say I am happy to live in ignorant about the true cause of the Civil War but would not mind if someone take the trouble to inform me of what really happened. |
No chance, (not even interested in an apology from her) the childish grown up chunxueping have insulted me twice now, once here and once on another thread when all I've done is inform her about history and about our government and educate her about logics, I've never ever been hostile or insulting to her to begin with but been so only to respond to her initial insults and hostilities, I really dont have time for people who are over sensitive, closed minded, and who also carry a great big chip on their shoulders, I dont waste time with chavs neither would I with them.....
She mentioned before no one speaks to her anymore, now I know the real reason why... |
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Lois Hashimoto
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, Goodedge, I admit I'm an ignorant woman who doesn't get the 9/11 conspiracy theory.
So please explain to me how the Americans were able to convince the Arabic pilots to kill themselves and 3000 others to give America an excuse to invade Iraq. |
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Goodedge
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Lois Hashimoto
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Aw shucks, Goodedge, you accused Chunxueping of not doing her own research, so I was expecting you to tell me about research you had done yourself. Reading selected YouTube video rants doesn't quite cut it as "Research" for me. So can you explain to me in your own words how George Bush was able to convince intelligent and very well-educated Islamists to kill themeselves for an evil George Bush cause? C'mon, Goodedge, this is the third time I'm asking, and all I'm asking is for you to practise what you preach. |
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Goodedge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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I should have known you werent being sincere, If you ignore the material you've been given to judge for yourself, then you are what you are, not my words but in your own words an ignorant person, thanks for proving that...people will just listen to the mainstream media and take it as gospel but when an alternative view is available thanks for the internet they wont even consider it even when it smacks them in the face to be more plausible, even when one of the clips showed clearly 'no plan' before the pentagon exploded, but you will only listen to the mainstrem media...
How about passports of the terrorist found amongst the rubbles of the plane supposedly crashed into the pentagon?? when every thing else were incinerated into rubble (including the plane's engines)..what are passport made from, paper!!!
Think women,, think!!!! |
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Lois Hashimoto
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You've just exposed yourself as someone who can't think for himself, Goodedge, and not worthy of honest debate.
You can't answer the one simple but very important question I asked you, (3 times!) can you?
You can rant and hurl insults all you like, Goodedge--I have nothing more to say to you. |
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Goodedge
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| Lois Hashimoto wrote: | You've just exposed yourself as someone who can't think for himself, Goodedge, and not worthy of honest debate.
You can't answer the one simple but very important question I asked you, (3 times!) can you?
You can rant and hurl insults all you like, Goodedge--I have nothing more to say to you. |
No on the contrary, infact your response proves its infact its you who cant think for yourself, who will only take seriously views given to you from the mainstream media but is ignorant to any other source, unlike you I've considered every other angle before coming to a conclusion...
You are obviuosly taking the piss! do you think I'm going to respect you? I never insulted you, you,ve only insulted yourself up to now!
I've answered your question already, the pasports they found were planted, faked!!! get it...use your brains if you have any!!! dont advertise yourself to be dumber than you already are!...
Now a Question for you, how does a building fall at free fall speeds without any resistance??
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Edwina Lee
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Gor blimey Goodedge,
You are as sane as the Mad Hatter in Alice In Wonderland. |
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Goodedge
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Edwina Lee wrote: | Gor blimey Goodedge,
You are as sane as the Mad Hatter in Alice In Wonderland. |
You know you dont mean that....  |
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Edwina Lee
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Goodedge wrote: | | Edwina Lee wrote: | Gor blimey Goodedge,
You are as sane as the Mad Hatter in Alice In Wonderland. |
You know you dont mean that.... |
You mean you are not as sane as the Mad Hatter?
I could well believe that  |
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Goodedge
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Edwina Lee wrote: | | Goodedge wrote: | | Edwina Lee wrote: | Gor blimey Goodedge,
You are as sane as the Mad Hatter in Alice In Wonderland. |
You know you dont mean that.... |
You mean you are not as sane as the Mad Hatter?
I could well believe that |
The truth is I'm not sure who 'Mad Hatter' is, but I still got your drift...
I think you ought to examine yourself, watching wacky stuff like that and then using it as a reference, it must have made an impact on you...
Are you sexy?... |
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T5unamie
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http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm
Humm...
To start off chunxueping, shame on you. You should have facebooked me a message when such an interesting topic came up.
For Chunxueping - http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm - Please find a link to the UN’s time CHRONOLOGY of resolutions passed to Iraq. Legitimacy of the information I have provided is based on the URL which is the UN’s official web-page. The legality of the war in Iraq is technically illegal because all members of the UN did not agree on the actions put forward by the Bush administration.
The simplest explanation is provided by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_UN_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_war
Due to Wiki’s questionable reliability based on fact.
Fact being decried in the English dictionary as.
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare QUESTION OF FACT, QUESTION OF LAW.
—Idioms
6. after the fact, Law. after the commission of a crime: an accessory after the fact.
7. before the fact, Law. prior to the commission of a crime: an accessory before the fact.
8. in fact, actually; really; indeed: In fact, it was a wonder that anyone survived.
I do not recommend using as a reference, but recommend the UN’s main achieve which details the dates of declaration of war. The declaration of war made to Iraq from the Bush administration was mad after an ultimatum was made from the join staff of the UK and America. This ultimatum was that Sadam Husian steps down as the ruler of Iraq. This was not met; at this point ALL UN inspectors had left the nation because the paper work had already been put forward for the declaration of war against Iraq.
In short, the reason why no one is going to jail over the legality of the war is mainly because the Government parties of both the UK and America crossed there T’s and dotted their ifs on all there forms. The public special of the leaders put on trial was to scrutinize them based on the reasons they went to war. Hope this helped Chunxueping? Let me know if you have questions on the matter.
As for you Goodedge,
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What contributes to war are people like chunxueping who have no idea about the world and are completely brain washed who are too lazy to do their own independent research but instead let other people feed it to them (the main media or friends) then they take it as frigging gospel, believe in it not knowing for sure if it’s true then go on forums to have their opinions heard, what imbeciles!!! and get angry at people for taking time out to educate them
chunxueping said 'the Iraq war had the blessing of the UN'.... so ... she must be right about 9/11 too and Im wrong...LOL!!!! |
Your statements concerning 9/11, Tibet and Iraq war have several holes as well as references. The references you have provided are from “conspiracy theories”. The key word being theory. This does not a bid by the rules of the word Fact listed above.
The reason for your ridiculed is due to the fact that your case is built on evidence that has neither been proven nor disproven. You have a point here and there and so does the gentlemen in the youtube films you have provided. Since this is not fact, we I cannot take it as such. There for I take you sources and understand you point of view. I agree that the war was fought for many reasons other than WMD’s.
Back to the topic at hand –
Tibet, after reading much of the responses I think the important issue has been lost over banter and insults. This topic is very important to me due to the unrest in Britain it has caused. I also believe that it has increased racism directed at Chinese origin. I myself have had fun with racist fools when they accused me of being a butcher of human rights by pretending to be Tibetan to see how they react. Then break down their argument by extending their argument to ridicules proportions then ridiculing the result.
Unfortunately I am not objective when I am angry and there for will break man physical and spiritually when they come out with something that is intended to harm or embarrass me.
Tibet topic -
Has the Chinese government favoured the Chinese immigrants? Is this a proven fact or current assumption? Have Tibetan citizens been miss treated for no reasons. Would Tibet be a better nation if it was not occupied by Chinese rule? These questions I have asked but have never been answered. The BBC continues to ignore my requests for this information. My MP is unable to answer me. Must I go myself to see with eye unclouded and ultimately how will this affect me or what difference does it make if I know the truth. |
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