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C. Lind

I have just visited your site for the first time and have been very perplexed by what I have read. Far from offering comfort support and advice to those Chinese living in Britain it would appear from many of your articles that you wish to promote and increase racial disharmony.

Let me give you some background. I am a white English male, since I was a small child I have had an interest in Chinese culture, philosophy, art, martial arts and so on. I lived in Hong Kong for four years prior to the handover and have had a Chinese girlfriend for six years.

It amazes me that you are so critical of a society in which you have chosen to live and many of your remarks are deeply hypocritical. Firstly stop feeling so sorry for yourselves. You are the lucky ones! Stop trying to drum up anger against your host country. Stop trying to jump on the racial bandwagon which ultimately will do your cause no good.

On the foot and mouth issue you raise, the fact is that the disease came from somewhere outside Britain. Secondly, meat products were imported, smuggled into Britain from China so it is possible that this was the source of the outbreak. How can you be so sure it was not? We will only know when a full investigation has been completed. I expect that many restaurants which serve meat including Mc Donalds have seen a downturn in business so why are you so sure it is only Chinese restaurants that are suffering.

There has been very little indeed in the media to suggest that foot and mouth disease came from China and yet you wish to make a huge issue of it. This action and the thinking behind it is flawed, it will do nothing to endear you to the British people or make your lives any more comfortable in Britain. On the contrary you may well loose much of the respect you have.

In your rush to jump on the racist bandwagon spare a thought for the native Britains of this land. The TB outbreak the biggest in the UK for 20 years, this has most likely come in from Asia where hygiene regulations and vaccination programs are thin on the ground. Anyone who has lived in China will know that TB is rife there where the habit of spitting in public places is common practice.

If you chose to live in a foreign land you have to expect that some people will resent your presence there. This is true of Britain just as elsewhere else in the world. Discrimination is everywhere. If you live in the north of Britain you are seen as an underclass by those who live in the south. If you live in Hong Kong you are resented by the mainland Chinese. Hong Kong Chinese in turn think themselves vastly superior to the mainland Chinese.

During my time in Hong Kong I found the Chinese people to be very xenophobic. They have a deep distrust of foreigners. They openly and unashamedly call us Gwiloes (foreign devils) or barbarians. How racist is this? There was clearly a great deal of resentment towards foreigners being on Chinese soil and yet the British were a small well behaved community of 16,000 in a population of 6 million. I didn't see any Brits getting upset about the names used to describe them in fact we adopted and used the term Gwilo/po to describe ourselves. These things only become a problem if you make them so.

Since coming to the UK my Chinese girlfriend has been warmly welcomed by my family and friends. She works in a large Chinese restaurant with many English girls who have been very friendly towards her and love her greatly for the wonderful person she is. Only on one occasion in our northern town has she ever encountered any racism. I, on the other-hand as an Englishman with a Chinese girl have been seen as something of an oddity by her Chinese friends and have been firmly rejected by her family because I am not Chinese. My sister has in particular been a great friend to my girlfriend whereas my girlfriends brothers and sisters have rarely made an effort to speak to me. Who are the real racists then?

It has to be said that my girlfriend makes a great effort unlike the other Chinese girls she works with. She is friendly cheerful and hardworking, whereas the others are always moody glum and lazy. In the end I think in Britain you will be judged by what you are and what you do rather than where you are from.

As far as the noodle advertisement is concerned I really dont see what is your problem with this. Stereotypes are always used in the media, the thing is not to take yourselves so seriously dont be so sensitive. Look at Mr Bean, look at Dads Army. The British people have always laughed at others but mostly we laugh at ourselves, this is the British way and you will make life far easier for yourselves as Chinese in the UK if you can understand and accept this.

One of the greatest cult role models of our time was a Chinese man called Bruce Lee. Every boy in Britain wanted to be like him. We all went out and joined Kung Fu clubs (in my case Wing Chun) and bought Silk Chinese pyjamas. We thought he was amazing and being Chinese gave him more appeal rather than less.

What is so wrong with Oriental women being seen as sexy by westerners. Be pleased that they are. Western women have been used to sell everything from sports cars to ice-cream.Why should oriental women be exempt from this mode of employment, they certainly are not in Hong Kong or across Asia.

The west's treatment of Oriental women cannot be worse than the East's. How many married Hong Kong men have young concubines across in China? Ninety five percent of Thai men use prostitute's on a regular basis, the girls often being kept in slave like conditions. Female babies in China are drowned in rivers because the preference is for boys. Womens rights count for little or nothing in the East.

It seems as though your web site wants to take an anti west, anti white stance on everything. Of course It will never be as easy living among foreigners as it is living amongst your own people. As a human race we naturally discriminate against those who are not like us. But you do have the choice, you can always go back to your country of origin. After a few months in China I expect you may realise that imperfect as it is Britain is a great place to be to. Dont people risk their lives to come here every day?

As far as Lucie Blackman is concerned, the press made a big story out of it because her father did all he could to bring the story to the media's attention. Of course a story of a beautiful English girl missing in Japan would make a bigger story here than a Japanese girl missing in England, it would be amazing if it did not. This is an issue for the Japanese media.

If it is the purpose of your web site to build up anti white, anti western feelings as it seems it is, then it is clearly a wasted initiative which could be used instead as a very positive force for good amongst the Chinese inhabitants of these islands. Having lived for a total of eight years in Asia I find it very hypocritical for Asians to accuse Britons of being racist when clearly their own countries are much more so.

I am currently living in Bangkok. I am described everywhere I go as a foreigner (farang), I have to pay more than Thai's do for just about everything. There are places here where only Japanese can go, places where black men cannot go,places which are free for Thai's but a charge is made to all others. As in Hong Kong there is a localisation policy as far as employment is concerned which blatantly discriminates against foreigners. Non of these things would be permitted in the UK but nevertheless we are constantly branded racist.

Last year I went to Manchester's Chinatown to see the New Year celebrations. All the people in the lion and dragon costumes were white and English. I think this said far more about British attitudes than all the anti white propaganda that appears on this site.

 
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C. Tsang - Hong Kong lady married to a Br Posted 16:18 on 11 August 2008
11 August 2008

Dear Mr Lind,

I am a Hong Kong Chinese while my husband is a British. I met him when I studied in the UK.

All my brothers and sisters attended either colleges or universities but not all of them are fluent in English. However, they all like my husband and try their best to talk to him in English.

My parents-in-law went to Hong Kong to our wedding reception. They were impressed by the hospitality from my family even my mother who could only speaks several words in English. They also found Hong Kong people friendly during their two weeks' visit.

My husband is not good at language but he tries to learn some greeting phrases in Cantonese so he can say thanks and praise my mother's dishes. He learn to use chopsticks with right hand even he is left-handed so he can eat at round table. My mother said my husband is the best son-in-law among the three (two others are Hong Kong Chinese). All my non-English speaking are friendly to my husband.

I have good friends who are British too. I have a good friend at work who was a native English speaker teaching English in school. He found some of the colleagues difficult to deal with but I think it happens everywhere.

At the moment, I am living in mid-Wales where it is difficult to find a professional job as I am a non-Welsh speaker.

I wish you will not generalise your experience with part of the Hong Kong Chinese as a norm.

Best regards,
Jonathan Krause - So who is British then? - A re Posted 18:14 on 7 December 2009
[size=medium][b]Exactly what are you getting at? As far I can read from your ungrammatical, badly argued piece you think that all foreigners should shut up and put up with racism, discrimination and stereotyping on the basis that

a) it happens elsewhere, b) "humans naturally discriminate" against those of different appearance, c) to complain about the situation would be "jumping on the racist bandwagon".

From your arguments, I can imagine your personal utopia where all foreigners living in the UK meekly bow and scrape whenever you walk past and must constantly and profusely thank you for letting them stay in your wonderful country. Woe betide any of them that step out of line and say that their lives are not 100% fantastic for they shall feel the wrath of the "native Briton" C.Lind (by the way Lind is a Swedish name isn't it?) and be branded as anti-white racists. You clearly have no idea about European and Asian history over the past few hundred years and the reasons why there is a British community in Hong Kong and why people of Chinese and other Asian origins came to live in the UK. Stop for minute and think of the economic, social and political backgrounds of both groups of people. Faced by the sound of silence? Go and read a book about it.

You attacked almost every article that failed to heap glowing praise on Britain. I cannot answer for others but I wrote the piece on Lucie Blackman in which you refer to her as a "beautiful English girl" - well, I could even challenge you on your choice of adjective but I'll let it pass. If you need it spelling out I wasn't challenging the Japanese press but the British media's attitude to missing people which directly correlates to the persons skin colour, regardless of their nationality. If Lucie was of Chinese, Pakistani or Nigerian ethnic origin but born and bred in the UK no matter what her family did to publicise the case it would not have got the same coverage here. Then again I don't suppose you see anything amiss with that.

Like a dog returning to eat its own vomit you keep going back to state that people from ethnic minorities in the UK are being over-sensitive when they complain of discriminatory stereotyping. However, when you've experienced discrimination yourself when abroad you say that you got upset and annoyed about it. Double standards applied on the grounds of race aren't very nice are they? Yet your twisted eye-for-an-eye logic demands that those who experience it in the UK shouldn't do anything about it because you weren't let into somewhere in Bangkok while the Thais were. For goodness sake - do you honestly believe that because some people act unfairly then it gives you the right to do the same?

As far as that old line about if you don't like it then go back to your own country - well there you really are taking the rhetoric straight from the British National Party candidates. The simple fact is that Chinese, Jews, Africans and Asians have lived here for hundreds of years and for the majority of non-white people here Britain is their place of birth as it was for their parents. Get used to it. Again and again you co-locate the words 'white' and 'English'. Why? Obviously in your little world only white people can count as English. I'm English and also happen to be of mixed race and I certainly don't apologise if this confuses you.

You get the feeling that the friends and family of your Chinese girlfriend (who as you say, works in a northern English town while you are living in Bangkok) are moody, glum and rarely bother to speak to you - hey, perhaps that's just the effect that you have on people. [/b][/size]
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