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Sunday, 14 October 2007
I am supposed to be preparing for my audition for Peter Pan tomorrow, but I can't bear this any more, I must write it down now.

I performed for a Chinese gathering recently to celebrate the Moon Festival in the Royal China restaurant on Baker Street. I played two pieces on the zheng and after the performance, the new cultural councillor from the Chinese embassy came to ask me for my contact details and asked if I would be free to perform for them the following week. I checked my diary and said I was free and would be happy to perform for them. He said good and he would let me know the details later.

By Tuesday of the week of the performance, I hadn't heard back from him, and I thought that as the event wasn't far away, I must give them a call to see if they still wanted me. The Secretary of the Chinese embassy called while I was thinking this and asked if I was still available, I said yes and I told her that I had been keeping that evening free since councillor Lin last mentioned about the performance. She asked how much I would charge, I said a hundred pounds plus taxi fares. I said I would normally ask a bit more, but this is ok for when I perform for Chinese communities. She said they have already planned the budget which is a hundred pounds, she asked if it's ok to pay me 100 including travel. I said I really couldn't perform for 100 including travel as taxis are probably going to cost £50 each way. I explained artists needed to live too, we do this to make a living and I didn't think other zheng players would be happy if I started to charge people a lot less than the market price. She said she understood and money wasn't the main problem, she said she would check with them and let me know the next day.

The "next day" passed, I didn't hear from her, so I called this morning to confirm it. She said "oh, I was meaning to call you. Well, I asked them, they are a bit unhappy, you know, this was already agreed in the first place, anyway, there is another musician who is willing to come to perform for us for free as he/she thinks it's such an honour to perform here in the embassy so we are going to have him/her instead..."

Already agreed? I said I would be free and I would be happy to perform for them, but he and I never talked about the fee, so, that is so-called "already agreed in the first place"? Secondly, if they had found someone and didn't need me any more, shouldn't they be calling me to let me know?

This is not the first time I have got angry with Chinese officials or Chinese organisers and this won't be the last time.

From this one little tiny thing, you can see the corruption there. Did councillor Lin ever hear the other musician playing? So quality of music doesn't matter at all, but someone with a sweet mouth says it's an honour to perform for you and is happy to do it for free? Why should it be free? Why should they expect artists to perform for them for free? And why should they be unhappy because the fact I asked to be paid a certain amount rather than simply accept what they offered?

There are more than enough Chinese who would offer things free to people, like the Chinese councillors in London of course, as they know what they might get back later by having such a "guanxi".

I guess the famous singer SONG Zuying has always performed free for our dear ex-chairman Jiang Zemin. By the way, I have heard people call him "Jiang Zaimin" instead in Beijing which literately means "Disaster for the People Jiang". However, SONG did become China's number singer and had major concerts all over the world in venues that other Chinese singers could only dream of.

Why haven't I leant to keep a distance from certain Chinese by now?!

One of the first few days that I came to London, a well know Taiwanese dancer in London called me and asked if I wanted to go to perform in Cornwall for an event. The price was rather low for such a journey but I thought it would be nice to leave London for a weekend, so I agreed.

The organiser in Cornwall mentioned the fee in front of me and I was shocked. The price that I was told by that Taiwanese lady was actually only half of the price that the organiser was paying. I was unhappy so I called her for an explanation once returned to London.

She said that this was London and this was the way things were, performers should never know what the agencies were getting. She then cancelled her other bookings with me. But at least I am still surviving as a Chinese dancer in London without being in her good books.

Often when I speak to my mum, she reminds me to be more careful with people around me. She thinks I am too naive and have a bad habit of trusting almost everyone around me. She is right, but I am slowly learning over the years.

I am not saying you should to careful with all Chinese, as there are plenty Chinese who are unbelievably lovely and kind, but they are likely to be among the normal people, who don't have governmental positions or a too famous name. To be honest, during the past five years that I have lived in Britain, the only times that I did feel tricked, cheated, controlled or used were all by Chinese people here, either mainland Chinese, Taiwanese or Malaysian Chinese. One of which even set up a charity that I volunteered for. Why not?! One, avoiding tax; two, gaining a good reputation; three, to have the right to use volunteers - those who actually do want to help - for free! I didn't know anyone could be this clever before but I eventually learnt. Now looking back, I wish it hasn't taken me that long to discover the truth, actually, I hope I never believed that person in the first place.

Today, I am telling myself one more time - Be more careful with some Chinese people!

Meimei
 
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Anonymous Posted 23:47 on 15 October 2007
You have to be careful, not paranoid. Compared with other racial groups, the Chinese do not have a monopoly of unethical behaviour; it's just another human failing.
pensggs Posted 12:04 on 17 October 2007
I sympathise with you, however, what you describe to me is not 'unique' to Chinese alone. It is the 'way of the world'.

The place of my birth was 'conned' from the ruler with the use of 'a word' in the contract which the ruler did not understand. The 'con' was done by the a state recognised British company.

I used to work in a British governmental body. The CEO was a Baptist. It was a well accepted and known fact that if you want to get 'somewhere' you should be attending his sermons.

All the world's crows are mostly black. The Chinese motto of 'Be cautious of everyone but never have the desire to harm anyone'. Beating yourself up about an 'unchangeable fact or situation' only hurts yourself. I learnt that to my own detriment.
Anonymous Posted 15:00 on 18 October 2007
But as the article states 'be careful with some Chinese people'... My girlfriend, (who is Chinese)is going through a hard time at the moment due to some Chinese people who keep hasseling her to write a character witness statement about another Chinese person who is subsequently attempting to sue them for a ridiculous sum of money. This was due to wrongful dismissal, (even though that employee threatened them on numerous occasions, with a kitchen utensil, during her employment because the employer's husband used to come into the shop 'grumpy' when he lost money at the races/or at the casino!). I just don't understand what is it about the Chinese and the importance of money? I know this doesn't go for all Chinese(who are mostly generous and kind-hearted people), but they do sometimes appear to have an unsavoury hang-up about money. Not only is this (decidedly well-off) Chinese employer hasseling my girlfriend but she is taking advantage of her generosity by getting her to call her back because she has 'free minutes' on her mobile,(which she has asked her to do since she found out she had them - subsequently using up all the free minutes my girlfriend has!). Whats more the same women offered my girlfriend's mum a job at her shop then gave it to someone else because she didn't want to wait for her release from her current employers, (my girlfriend's mum had already given in her notice). This has subsequently back-fired on the employer as she doesn't like the new employee she recruited and has now offered the position back to my girlfriend's mum again...all this along with the hasseling of a statement, which we assured her will be done before the end of the weekend. I am angered by all of this and I now feel my girlfriend shouldn't get involved or help her out with this dispute, as she will no doubt take further advantage of her generosity and who knows where this will end!
TK Posted 16:27 on 18 October 2007
Anonymous, sounds your like girlfriend is caught up in a complicated situation. The safest and the best course of action is for the aggrieved party to obtain proper legal advice. Good luck.
Alice Chun Posted 23:22 on 29 October 2007
Ahh tricky, is easy to lose things in translation. I have found out the hard way never to say "Im free" but to say "I am available for engagement (that night)." The term "Im free" is often viewed as "I am making no charge."

I had similar situation recent but I dug my heels in and was rewarded with the "correct understanding" and my host peeled off a large sum in new fifty pound notes without question once he realised that things were not up for debate.

Most Chinese people are generous to a fault but there are some who will fain "misunderstanding" when the right opportunity occurs. In the West a contract defines the agreed deliverable. In China it is the absolute maximum that is expected and the final fee is negoitable depending on the satisfaction of the receiving party and the extent of the the personal relationship.
P.H.Chan Posted 6:52 on 31 October 2007
£50 each way for a taxi seems a lot, was it a long journey ? Also was the Taiwan lady,when you went to Cornwall, your agent. If she was, you should have known she would take a cut and what per cent, not right for her not to tell you. Not sure if 50% is excessive.

Good luck on your dance/music career.
Alice Chun - Being careful Posted 14:20 on 31 October 2007
Ahh your experience not so unusual. My first job when I get to HK was in Taiwan. I was persuade by HK agent that this was most prestige contact, would earn me "Da Gwangxi" and make me famous and much more work so I agree to do completely for free, even pay my own plane fare to Chinese Taipei (about £200 I could ill-aford. Agent knew this.

After first concert is obvious the client boss expecting sex with me and I say that is not part of deal. I do this concert free as symbol of friendship between us. He then complain to me about why he get big bill from my agent, nearly £8,000 equivalent in HK dollar! When I get back to HK I take my agent to task over this he say he got to make living and his boss tell him to make this billing. So I demand 50%. I never get and I never work for this agent again. However, my reputation is still excellent in Chinese Taipei. Never use agent if you can do without.
Jeff Minter Posted 7:08 on 2 November 2007
The thing is, how exactly do you be careful with some Chinese people? After all, we do look the same :S

Stereotypes aside,how exactly can you tell when to be wary from one chinese to another? First appearances are - surprisingly - chinese. Even if you get to talk to them, as you have experienced people (from all races obviously) who seem kind just want to exploit you for their own means.

The important thing to take from all this is not to steer into a self hatred of your own race - rather see it as a global change where everyone is in a dog eat dog world. Sad, but true.
OKsource Posted 20:05 on 6 November 2007
Oh dear, You would think the embassy would be generous in promoting Chinese art. As an artist you should have a secretary. When ask alway say you need to consult with your secretary and let your secretary send a standard professionally printed price list and order form/contract. As a performer your job is to assess whether you are able to deliver what is ask of you at your stated price. It is than up to you to give discount or to charge extra.
Braveheart Posted 16:28 on 21 January 2008
Well, that is exactly you should have imagined if you're dealing with Chinese (PRC) officials, not supprised me.
UglyChineseCanadian - unethical Chinese Posted 8:44 on 17 February 2008
Interesting Post. Just when we thought we had the monopoly on unethical Chinese here in Canada ...we learn of this from your post.

The unfortunate thing that is occurring here in our Nation is the arrival of some new Chinese immigrants and their interpretation of ethics... or lack thereof.

And by being so politically correct, no one dares say anything for fear of being accused a "RACIST".

In our many years of business, we've only been ripped off by a few people. All of them Chinese: Singaporeans, Taiwanese and Hong Kongers.
OS Posted 12:29 on 21 February 2008
That's why I always talk about money first.
Chuckle - Be Careful with some Chinese Posted 6:17 on 16 March 2008
I fail to see the grievance meimei has with the embassy staffer. From what I gathered, there was no firm contract for the engagement, written or verbal. At least, there was no definite understanding on fees and benefits. Hence, if the Embassy could get a better deal elsewhere and decided to go with someone else, what is the problem ? It is free market in operation, isn't it? I suggest that in future, meimei ought to be more business like and have the terms clearly spelt out and agreed to before hand.
darkgold Posted 0:45 on 1 April 2008
Ok, here's a true story..

There was a Malay Halal meat company I knew of that were about to take off ages ago. They hired a Chinese acountant. The first thing the accountant guy 'advised' the company to do in order to save money was to buy non Halal meat and sell it off to Muslims under the pretence that it was Halal. That's like selling pork mince in the middle of Golder's Green and passing it off as Kosher or packing scraps of it in a Quorn meal. The guy lost his job, due to his lack of respect for other faiths. He was a Malaysian Chinese, and Malaysians being close knit community as they are overseas as opposed to their homeland, was selected initially for the job because it was thought he was more aware of such religious sensitivities.

Although this isn't a 'Chinese' problem, since Halal pork is now being sold in yr local Halal takeaway alongside the fried chicken, it doesn't help with they way we are being stereotyped as money grabbing scrooges.
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