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Wednesday, 13 June 2007
The traders of Oriental City, the South East Asian shopping and eating mall in Colindale, North London, have reached a settlement with Development Securities who are poised to redevelop the site.

In yesterday’s announcement, Laurence Martin – Development director of Development Securities said, “Following five months of discussions with tenants involving the GLA and Brent, we’re pleased to have reached an agreement to move forward and redevelopment an exciting new OC.”

The settlement means that Oriental City traders have been allowed free rent and can remain open for business until the development starts June 2008. Julian Barwick, the joint managing director of development Securities said: “We recognise that it is not possible to temporarily relocate tenants during redevelopment and because of this there is a period of uncertainty for the tenants. Therefore, we have agreed a clear timetable for close down of the package of measures including rent free from now until closure to provide assistance to tenants.”

Although when asked if the traders would be allowed to return to the New Oriental City, Dimsum was told that the 'practicalities of a huge redevelopment' did not guarantee that they would all be in a position to return. Nevertheless, we were assured that the concept of Oriental City is protected for South East Asian businesses to fill the new development.

Nevertheless Mr Yip Fai Liu, the chairman of OCTA, said: “We are pleased to have reached an agreement with Development Securities. We also want to make it clear to all our loyal customers that it is still very much business as usual at Oriental City for many months to come. We intend to be in business at Oriental City until next May.”

“Just as importantly we are resolved to seek a new home for the Chinese and Far Eastern communities in north-west London. Development Securities will provide temporary community facilities during the construction period for Far East community. The community facilities integral to Oriental City will be safeguarded during the redevelopment and replaced in the new building. Oriental City will continue to live on as a cultural and commercial hub for our communities.”

Although the search is still on for a new venue for the temporary community centre during the closure, Development Security has agreed to provide £250,000 for running costs. A compensation figure for the traders has also been agreed, but figures were undisclosed.

Of the outcome, Mr Liu, head of the Oriental City Traders Association, said, “Oriental city is unique; there is no way we can close for 3 years without any compensation package. 1000 trader’s families were affected by the decision to close the centre, not to mention the community and shoppers.  We fought hard and with dignity and pride, so I am happy about the settlement. I am most grateful for the help from many organisations and individuals.”

The £200million redevelopment scheme will include 300,000sq feet of shops and cafes, 520 private and affordable homes and a primary school for 420 pupils.

 
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Ben Chia - Oriental City Posted 19:41 on 13 June 2007
This is good news for the traders and if they all relocate to new temporary premises,we will be there too. We need to eat dim sums, roti chanai, mee goreng, cendol, ice kacang and etc , every Sun.
Carry on the business and we'll come.
Darren - OC Posted 22:35 on 13 June 2007
This is good news indeed but you have to be a bit sceptical of the statement about not being sure if the current tennants will all be allowed into the new development.
Here's hoping the development company have a soul and keep their word. Overall great news. See you all at the mall soon.
Sarah - Oriental City Posted 13:35 on 2 September 2007
Only just learnt about Oriental City's near escape - for now, anyway. My family live in North essex and Suffolk and we make the journey down to Colindale for a great day out, and to stock up on Japanese essentials. We come so far because there is nowhere else to go!
Andy Posted 12:53 on 14 October 2007
Wing Yip are expanding just down the road, why don't they open a food court and seize the opportunity?
Cig - Oriental City Posted 20:15 on 19 October 2007
A bit of the joke really! They're just hoping that with time people will forget about it.
I know a lot of people that travel from across the country to go there! Why?
Because there's no other place like it in the UK.
Quite a pity for a country that deems to be culturally open.
Close the only Far East food court in the UK but build a giant mosque in London.
Financial logic?!
Beast me...
REMY - IT IS A SAD JOKE Posted 18:43 on 31 December 2007
Cig,
Why on earth, in this country, whenever there is something which is convenient, liked by the majority of people, is being closed down, taken away, only for the profits of the PROPERTY DEVELOPPERS??????
Nick - Oriental City Posted 23:06 on 23 October 2007
Its a bloody waste of space, it should b demolished, and im saying that as a long-time resident of Kingsbury which is close by the location. It always seems to be emptier than a graveyard, and a funeral would be more exicteble. It really is a depressing place to go to.
Nic - Oriental City Posted 10:37 on 24 October 2007
To Nick - I am embarrassed to share a name with you. Have you ever been inside? London and the UK in general needs more culturally specific places like this which are open for all to enjoy. No where else in London can you find such an amazing food court. Open your eyes and go inside and you will find you will learn more in one day than in all your years in Kingsbury.

Long Live Oriental City.
Remy Posted 18:47 on 31 December 2007
To Nick,

Travelling, reading, observing, being opened to others cultural societies, would do you a world of good.
Barry Stone - Oriental City Posted 16:12 on 6 January 2008
Nick you are obviously a "pratt" to make a comment like that about the oriental city have a look at Kingsbury where you apparently live and see what a "dreadful" place it is with lot's of cheapskate rubbish shops there all selling substandard poor quality rubbish goods that are really only fit for the dustbin. At leasr the oriental city sells many things that are well made and useful.
sam - Oriental City Posted 13:17 on 26 October 2007
I agree with Nic. I go to Oriental city on a monthly basis for food and supplies and I always find the place to be bustling with people and activity. This is one of London's true cultural gems! Nick I'm guessing you have never really stepped foot inside Oriental City in the last few years and just want to fill our towns with soulless multiplexes and chain stores. Places like Oriental City make London the amazing place it is and to loose it will be a crime.
Rob - lobusan1@yahoo.com Posted 12:03 on 19 November 2007
Does anyone know where the traders will move to during the redevelopment? In particular the food court. Will they disperse, stick together, shut down totally?

Hopefully the spirit of the traders will prevail!

Home is where the heart (and the tasty food) is.
Emma - Oriental City Posted 10:38 on 22 November 2007
It is a real shame that we wll have to go without Oriental City for some time. And I have great sympathy for the current traders who are headed for an uncertain future.
I hope that the new development allows for the same sort of businesses and atmosphere.
You can see why they might have chosen to redevelop though. While the food court and supermarket area is a fantastic and bustling place to go, there are quieter areas with few customers and some of the shops have been vacant for some time.
Lets hope they don't mess it up, and we end up with an even bigger better Oriental City.
Louise - Oriental City Posted 19:30 on 9 December 2007
Only a long term resident of Kingsbury could find it a more exciting place than Oriental City (Nick above).
Harry - Oriental City Posted 12:16 on 16 December 2007


Sitting in Oriental City for lunch one day thinking 'My what a fine and mind opening place this is'

I can not afford many holidays but for one evening I could be in China then Japan the next evening! How great is that and especially for my children who are more advanced than nugget and chips

A bridge that brings the oriental community and the rest of north west London together in exotic light, smell and sound that is the food hall. This place will be no more. How? to be replaced by yet another soulless mall selling the usual rubbish. Why? is beyond me.
How can something so unique be taken away from people? Surely people need to break away from the norm of chain burger bars and coffee shops? Yet there is always comfort in this for some...
Ami - Oriental City Posted 14:04 on 16 December 2007
I am also a long-term resident in Kingsbury and live close to Oriental City, Just like Nick (above), but I don't see how he doesn't love Oriental City.

The food court is absolutely amazing for a quick bite (I recommend Yasai Vegetable!) and if you want something more sophisticated, the restaurant upstairs is gorgeous. Not only the food, but the arcade is really fun with bowling, shooting games and lots more. Clothes shops, jewellery and even a supermarket!

Oriental City has everything rolled into one and the atmosphere is just amazing. There is something for everyone there and I can't believe it was almost closed down.
Jag - Kingsbury residents LOVE Orien Posted 11:46 on 22 December 2007
I am a long time Kingsbury resident, and contrary to Louise's suggestion above; Kingsbury rocks! But so does Oriental City. I know loads of Kingsbury residents who absolutely worship the place. For me it's every weekend for food and every few weekends for supplies and just general browsing around the fantastic shops they have in there. Oriental City is a unique experience and one of London's best kept secrets. Enjoy it while you can!
Not Nick - re: Oriental City Posted 17:53 on 30 December 2007
Nick wrote:
Its a bloody waste of space, it should b demolished, and im saying that as a long-time resident of Kingsbury which is close by the location. It always seems to be emptier than a graveyard, and a funeral would be more exicteble. It really is a depressing place to go to.

So you find funeral more exiciting! I don't blame you as you know so much about graveyard! I do not know any graveyard in Kingsbury.Let me know, will you?
rav - OC Posted 10:59 on 20 January 2008
Going there is as invigorating as going on holiday, or the cinema or anywhere else which takes you out of yourself for a while - urban devlopment should be like that, encapsulating aspirational ideas - not reinforcing narrow viewpoints - I love the place and have done since it was the Yaohan Plaza - so its in Colindale ? - even better - it's a little like walking through a doorway in a dull street and being transported into another world & we could definately do with more places like this in the U.K.
rav Posted 11:04 on 20 January 2008
And as for "Nick", I'm sorry to to say that living in Kingsbury has contributed to a dullness of mind and spirit which has led to him believing that OC is mostly empty - or he can't stand people...?

Go there, enjoy the food on offer and stop grumbling...
Reshad Posted 17:25 on 29 January 2008
I've been down Oriental City many times. I travel from the South East, (Hertfordshire), to go and eat there and have a great time. How the hell can you Nick say it's boring?

The only time it's not busy is a Wednesday during winter. If they close down this place where can I buy my food? It's a shame they do things like this. (Places like these remind me of my travels).
mikepem - Oriental City Posted 17:48 on 31 January 2008
Nick hi - on reading the responses to your outspoken attack on OC it's easy to understand the lynch-mob mentality. If denigrating OC the way you did generates the sort of hate-mail that follows imagine what child molesters and murderers have to face. I must admit I've only been there after dark and if the car park is anything to go by it's a pretty scary place. But once inside the characteristic florescent lighting and pungent smell of oriental cooking does in some small way evoke memories of Hong Kong's Causeway Bay, the excitement of Kuala Lumpur and the chaos of Bangkok. OC does its best but nothing, as those correspondents who have experienced it, compares with the real thing. When you emerge into the main road following a visit it is unmistakably drab and dreary north London. As for me, an occasional visitor who enjoys the food and makes good use of the supermarket as well as owning what The Times has twice listed as one of the 10 best Pan Asian restaurants in southern Britain, I would be very sad to see its total disappearance. Harry, Ami, Jag and Rav above have captured the spirit of OC but I remain sceptical over its survival. I make it my business to treat everything one's told by either a council or the developer involved with immense suspicion. Both Laurence Martin and Julian Barwick have made all the right noises but has anyone had sight of their promises in an official written document? I don't know. And even then all interested parties should check out the small print. Also I find it hard to believe although he says he's trying, Mr Barwick is unable to find a temporary site while a new centre is built. I look forward to further progress reports and sincerely hope for everyone involved the whole story has a happy ending!
Barbi - Oriental City Posted 16:26 on 1 February 2008
It will be a sad, sad day when Oriental City shuts its doors for the last time. I agree with Mikepem, and would not believe a word the developers say until I saw it in black and white. I only discovered the City 4 years ago, and I make regular fortnightly trips from Stanmore to my favourite Yummy Yummy Thai for the duck curry set meal. Having lived in Hong Kong and seen the food courts there, I just loved the smell of the City and the diversity of international food shops and their vast shopping centre. I reckon that when they finally knock the place down, the small traders will be the all round losers as their previous rents will not be high enough for the new developers, who will have a lot of very large loans to pay back. Viva Oriental City!
Rainbowtrout - oriental city Posted 1:18 on 5 February 2008
I for one will boycott any development built on this site if the developers fail to keep their promises to preserve the oriental shops. Can you believe the original plans were for a B&Q and apartments? I can't imagine anything less useful! Now if all the residents of the edgware/colindale/kingsbury areas did the same we will have taught the developers a very expensive lesson indeed. Bring on mass action...
Rainbowtrout - Oriental City Posted 1:28 on 5 February 2008
Although come to think of it given the state of the current housing market the developers are probably already learning a very expensive lesson with their plans for 500+ newbuild city apartments starting 2008! The word karma springs to mind...
silvertongue - oriental city Posted 18:59 on 9 February 2008
Reply to Nick - How can you think oriental city is empty, and should be knocked down? I love going to oriental city, and will be so sad when it closes down for 3 years. I have been going there since I was a baby.
peony1144 - oriental city Posted 19:07 on 9 February 2008
Does anyone know how the new location will be publicised? I grew up in South East Asia, and Asia, and there are many foods I get at oriental city which I would not be able to get anywhere else. It is a real taste of childhood for me, and my daughter (Silvertongue), has been able to grow up with diverse tastes, and a cultural influence that will be carried on in her life. We are both so sad about the closure.
King B - oriental city Posted 17:35 on 25 February 2008
It is a real shame about Oriental City and the closure is a real loss and blow to the cultural diversity of London. I'm originally from Vancouver where there are numerous large Chinese, Korean and Japanese supermarkets and shops. It is amazing that London (being many times larger) has hardly anything. There are a few small shops here and there, but no Asian supermarkets that I am aware of. The lack of authentic Asian food in London (particularly Japanese and Korean)is quite shocking and unbelievable to me. Almost every place I visit has more authentic food (Los Angeles, New York, Vancouver, etc). It must have something to do with the cost of living in London. There even used to be a Japanese department store in central London - Sogo - but it closed many years ago. So many products are completely unavailable in the UK, ever try to buy a fish grill? The Mayor of London, and the government should be encouraging more diversity and integration but they are going the exact opposite direction with all their pseudo neo-con policies and illegal immigration laws (against the EU human rights act - particularly the right to a family). Why should I obey the law, if our own government does not obey the law? It's not like they can throw me in jail (they are over 100% full in case you haven't heard). This is really turning into a terrible place to live, it is definitely not getting better and the closure of Oriental city helps to highlight this unfortunate fact.
AJ 123 - best bits of Oriental City Posted 19:01 on 26 February 2008
Can anyone tell me what the best/most authentic dishes to have at the food court at Oriental City that remind people of their home country?

Also - just interested what kind of food people would buy at the supermarket/bakers there that you can't find anywhere else - and also in terms of other things like clothes, hardware, crockery etc....
Sam - Oriental City Posted 21:44 on 8 March 2008
If London wasn't such an over priced cesspit (particularly north London - what a dump generally hey?) then cultural diversity would thrive, as far eastern and south east Asian monitories would actually be able to afford to set up in business. Spread out people, move away from over crowded, over priced, over hyped London and set up food courts in all home counties, starting, preferably, in Essex. Thanks!
Big john - Lovely food Posted 10:57 on 23 March 2008
Hmmmm .......I used to travel 100 miles once a month to eat in oriental city..great place to take the kids and wonderful food.I feel hungry just thinking about it .
sy - Food Court Posted 11:51 on 23 March 2008
It's very sad that Oriental City will be closed by June (?)... the whole concept of food court, whether it's Asian food or just a mix of different choices of food stall, is just brilliant. I cannot find anything as exciting, and with such variety, as Oriental City. London suburbs should have more of these food courts!! It's just smart business. There are so many other lands for big retail parks... why do they have to pick OC!
MS - Re - allocate Posted 11:34 on 3 April 2008
OC it's a great place to eat and enjoy the different kind of foods from asian. It is very sad if OC will be close in May or June.....

Please re - allocate OC!!!
Suphaphorn Seesopha - Oriental City Posted 17:56 on 6 April 2008
Of course it is a shame that Oriental City in London is being forced to close. I have been going there for a number of years now and its great cultural diversity is a great meeting place. I am afraid people will vote with there feet in the forthcoming mayoral elections. Goodbye Ken!
Roger - OC Posted 19:56 on 9 April 2008
Where will we go when OC closes - any answers yet? If there is such a market as you all say for SE Asian food, people will go. In Singapore the stalls in food courts sell only one or a few dishes. My friend does mobile Chinese catering - why can't the traders open a simplified food court in some other location - even outdoors, in summer
Cak - Where are they going to go? Posted 17:37 on 11 April 2008
The question has already been asked in this forum but no answer has been given. Where are all the traders going to go? Is there a list somewhere? Are some sticking together or is everyone going their separate ways?
I love OC for the food, of course, but also for the beauty salon (Prime Beauty) and hairdresser (Moda, Perry - the best hairdresser in the world). Will greatly miss going there...
J.E.F - Big question-mark Posted 17:33 on 20 April 2008
I was there today for the first time in a few months and was absolutely shocked at how full it was! All the "Save OC" signs had been taken down, and I thought that due to the present property market, maybe OC had been given a reprieve...

Not a bit of it. They are definitely closing at the end of next month, and every trader on being asked where they were moving to, asked whether I was on the mailing list. Seems THEY have no idea.

I'm not really optimistic. It seems that Oriental City/Yaohan Plaza (a place I've been going to every month since the 80s) is destined to be history. I'd love to think that it'll be recreated elsewhere (or in that travesty of a new development), but it seems to be yet another great credit to London life that's about to be consigned to history.

RIP Oriental City. You were dearly loved...
Jane - Get it while you can! Posted 21:59 on 24 April 2008
Went in to Oriental City for lunch today for probably one of the last times.

:-(
Sarah Posted 20:38 on 27 April 2008
More profit and money grabbing for the ass developers. I'm so amazed how they take their pride so seriously. I've reliezed how much there are over car displays in Colindale and compared to one 'oriental city' in the whole country they want to destroy something cultural and meaningless of all more populated apartments or schools..
I presume they don't relieze how common and non-unqiue they are.
Tory - Ken Posted 23:57 on 1 May 2008
Ken, guess what? I didn't vote for you today. Sorry there won't be a next time, but if there was...you should grow some balls and respect the diversity of London.
Danny - why... Posted 14:29 on 2 May 2008
I just got to say why....?
Lina - Closed? Posted 11:50 on 4 May 2008
Does anyone know exactly when the closing date is?
Steve - Temporary Venue Posted 23:22 on 5 May 2008
What date exactly will the oriental city close and where and when will a temporary venue be open????
Rebecca - Closing date Posted 17:16 on 6 May 2008
I have heard it is the end of May.
More importantly; where do I now go for my weekly fix of S.E Asian food? Where? Where? Really quite a blow to my weekend habits.
??? - isit closed Posted 18:04 on 6 May 2008
is it closed yet?
Kevin - end of May: end of OC :-( Posted 22:38 on 18 May 2008
looks like the end of May and no going back. I was there today and chatted to a few of the stall holders and they don't seem to have managed to find somewhere that they can all shift to en masse. Some will probably open "one off" stalls in various places (one woman mentioned Finchley Road station) but it just won't be the same as having them all together like they are now. I hope in the longer term something along the lines of what OC is like now will come again: surely it's a viable business opportunity? but for now we'll all just have to live without it. I'll miss you OC!!!!
Bye Bye - Bye Bye Posted 9:41 on 24 May 2008
The final day is Sunday 01 June. Traders will close at 7pm that day for the last time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_City
HarryT - OC new venue Posted 20:09 on 30 May 2008
Does anyone know anything about a new Wembley site that is rumoured to be a potential new food court?
Des - Croydon - OC Last day Posted 19:42 on 1 June 2008
I was there today and the whole place was just buzzing... More so than usual i must say, which just makes the whole thing even more sad for me. I have been coming here for years, back when it was called Yaohan or (Bat Bat Boon for the Chinese speakers)and i never thought this day would come for this place. I believe this was the last bastion of a truly culturally diverse place in London. Nowhere else is there such accessible food for so many array of different people of different cultures, everyone eats together, sharing tables, talking to strangers and all suffering that same god awful heat that gets trapped in that place! The experience of eating there on a busy afternoon is rivalled only in asia for its intensity and sheer chaos.

I really hope there will be an OC2 somewhere in London as a replacement, it would be an awful shame to lose such a magnificent stage for all people to eat, talk and share together. Where else is there such cultural harmony in London?
rolland - new site? Posted 14:05 on 9 June 2008
any one know where the new site is and the post code so i can put it into my sat nav

shame its gone now

didn't even get time to pop down for the last time

thanks
Caroline Posted 20:58 on 12 June 2008
I have been going to the fantastic Yoahan Plaza/Oriental City for many years. The food hall was a place where you could get the most wonderful and diverse food without having to sit in the formality of a restaurant. The atmosphere was great and it was such a great place to escape to away from the dull routine of daily life. Now its gone and there is nowhere even remotely similar to go. Reading all these comments I can see that there are like minded people to myself who are angry and upset that Oriental City is gone. Surely another food hall could be set up locally. I agree with a comment made above that suggested the Wing Yip in Cricklewood. There is nowhere to go now. If I want to have a lovely lunch in a buzzing, relaxed and informal atmosphere where do I go? There is nowhere. I hope that I'm wrong but I fear we will never see its like again.
Aida - OC Posted 20:30 on 16 June 2008
I heard OC was closing but wasn't sure of exact date. We drove 40 miles on Saturday 14 June - in the hope of having our lunch there and to my shock tinged with such sadness, the back road heading to the card park was closed off! Which only meant one thing....! I sorely miss my Malaysian food, esp the Roti Canai, and the supermarket where I can stock up with my Maggi Mee and F&N Sarsi! And I miss the atmosphere too! *sob* *sob*
Cathy - OC Posted 0:32 on 21 June 2008
It's such a shame really. My 10 yr old son asked if we could go to OC food court tomorrow (Sat) for his favourite Hainanese Chicken Rice and my 5yrs old's said he liked the S'pore Fried Keow Teow while my hubby's favourite..the authentic Malaysian Nasi Lemak Ayam as for me, I 'usually' share with my 5 yr old cos' the portion is usually big. My boys were so dissapointed when I told them that the mall has shut down due to redevelopment. They kept asking where and when can they eat their favourite food again and I can't give them an answer. Can anyone tell me if they have moved to a temporary location? Especially the Malaysian cuisine stall..original!..my hubby will never missed his opportunity to eat his favourite Nasi Lemak Ayam every time we go there when we have a chance.

So..so..sad!
London-RIP - RIP Oriental City Posted 0:33 on 28 June 2008
Such a shame - this is another London gem we've lost. Read more about it and other much-missed London places at [url]http://www.london-rip.com/orientalcity.html
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