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Thursday, 05 November 2009

 Lets Go! Oriental Angel was a contrived, twee and saccharine attempt at an X-factor style show in the mainland this year, designed to be good family TV that can be followed with utter fanaticism by Chinas huge evening audience and then promptly forgotten about afterwards in readiness for the 2010s teen pop idols. However, one particular contestant caused an uproar which is quickly going international.

Miss Lou Jing, representing Shanghai, is a mixed race Shanghainese girl, her father is African American and her mother is Chinese. Her mother was made pregnant and her father left to return to the US, she was raised by her mum and grew up in Shanghai living the life of a normal Shanghainese girl who is loved by her family and friends, and playfully called Xiao Hei (Xiao Hei means little black, and is a dimunitive much like negrita in Spanish, its not racist). She, like most teenagers, had dreams of star hood. 

 

Reactions to her have been both positive and negative, if one were to be diplomatic. Her detractors are up in arms about her mums disgraceful behaviour: cavorting with the foreign devils and raising a mongrel which came of her immoral lifestyle, many refuse to accept that she is Chinese and think she is African. Very hurtful statements were made against her such as "How comes she wasn't born a zebra" and particularly her slutty, thick skinned, race traitor bitch of a

mother. On the other hand many jumped to her defense, many netizens thought she was brave, beautiful (she is pretty fit actually) and many In this Obama age responses were posted in response. Someone even went through the effort of posting a falsified response in her name threatening to sue, which only escalated this war of words. Just another day on the internet.

 

Whats interesting is the international response that soon followed, apologists and China bashers have come all over to express their 2 cents. As if on cue the white liberals and the black nationalists jumped all over it. Milder statements from "theyll have to learn to do better" to the more offensive ones "these ignorant, xenophobic Chinese are showing their true colours" to the more extreme ones "the Chinese are Blacks, and they just dont know it, how very sad it is that they dont recognise that without Kemet, there would be no China." Other posters have suggested she moved to London or Paris, where she will be adored as she is of an interesting ethnic mix.

 

This is all a very interesting contrast to 2005 when all Chinese media were showering adoration on Miss Mwamaka Sharifu Lali, a Kenyan girl who discovered she has Chinese blood from 600 years back went (back?) to China to take advantage of a scholarship and a spot of root-finding. All that positivity from the 600th anniversary of Zheng He's voyage left China busy and contentedly patting itself on its back, Miss Lali was made every front page big and small in China but never not a single western (or indeed Kenyan) paper.

 

Whats more interesting of course is the context, after all Blacks in China are nothing new and are accepted in some areas of life without anyone batting an eyelid: albeit this is restricted to trade fair buyers, English teachers, students of Chinese, RnB club DJs, basketball players in the CBA, football players and of course, drug dealers for white expats. Many cities of China have fledgling international districts, and in early mornings you can see Black, White, Arab and Chinese children all speaking the same local dialect, going to school together, and getting up to no good in the same little

crews in the evenings. I of course exclude the hordes of Caribbean Blasians from this picture; they have been uniquely comfortable enough for the last 200 years in their own uncomfortable indentity crisis.

 

Of course this brave new Blasian past, present and future hasnt been all fun and games, Racism definitely exists, definitely; but since most Blacks in China are very rich by Chinese standard this is generally left at the level of you look like 50 cent, are you related?, just dont marry one and lots of uninvited hair touching.  More serious Black and Chinese antagonisms in China do exist too and periodically explode. China under Mao was happy to arm African nations against colonial powers and educate its engineers, officers and doctors. This internationalism was militantly expressed in free

travel, accommodation and tuition for our brave coloured allies. Sods law dictates that nothing good lasts for long, and in 1988 Nanjing University exploded with anti-black riots. These are now widely recognised as a precursor to Tiananmen square, as the sentiments went from they took our women to subsidies for locals, not internationals until finally free press and human rights. Of less world-shattering influence is the 2007 drug raid in Beijings hip Sanlitun bar district, which led to the Somali ambassadors son being beaten senseless by overzealous police officers and another tally

being added to the not too proud moment for China list. Most recently Guangzhou saw energetic protests last month by hundreds Africans who were complaining against the heavy handed immigration raids which alledgedly led one overstayed African to jump to his death in a bid to escape deportation (though this was later found out to be nothing more than a rumour).

 

Back to Miss Lou Jing, this poor little 19 year old with limited English has conducted herself with absolute grace and dignity in the face of everything. She has been crucified somewhat by her mixed blessing of receiving the role as the poster child for a China trying to come to terms with its own growing cosmopolitanism, and an outside world hungry for information but is willing only to see her experiences through its own narratives and paradigms. Congratulations and sorry!

 

There is a calmer picture and truth is hidden behind all the hype.  Once again, someone led the blind monks to the elephant. People who know very little about China are talking about China like expert sinologists again, with the usual dose of ethnic essentialism, bad humour and muddle minded ignorance. The blame goes back to China Smack. Its the only portal for which English speakers can catch a glimpse into the gutter press of China, the BBS recluses of the dregs

of an e-generation with no social skills beyond idol worship a la Perfect Blue style, instigating human search engine lynchings, and trying to divide their nationalism between the Peoples Republic and Manchester United in an intellectually sustainable way. These posters are a breed far apart from the normal netizens routine of seeking the latest drama on Youkou, playing World of Warcraft and chatting to each other on QQ. Its articles should be taken with a sociological

distance and mild amusement not unlike how one would approach a youtube comment thread. It wasnt until racial issue based blogs picked up on this translated story that started the United States netizens on one of their favourite edgy topics. Next thing you know, TIME magazine, Der Spiegel, French & Italian tabloids are all over it, the print media never made this much fuss when these comments thread warriors were calling for all ethnic Koreans in China to be killed or

that in a fight, a Shaolin monk would definitely beat a ninja. This whole episode really is more about the social life of information rather than Miss Jing, Black people or China.

 

I talked with my granddad about it and finally got as close to the authentic Chinese response as you will find, with a sagacity well tempered by age, he told me that both himself and grandma thought she wasnt much of a singer - another tone deaf pretty face for us to buy, and that, my dear brothers and sisters, is the real truth.

 

 

 

Olhos de Gato

 

 
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flowerpower Posted 0:38 on 11 November 2009
Id like to see some pictures please! PS dont slag off China Smack I love that newspaper its tawdry yes but fun
Olhos de Gato Posted 15:09 on 11 November 2009
not slagging off China smack at all, just trying to point out it's pretty niche opinions that do get show cased there!

here's a picture of the lady http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2556/3985434402_8e73db819d.jpg
Luke - video and article here Posted 15:38 on 12 November 2009
http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-black-girl-lou-jing-racist-chinese-netizens/

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Olhos de Gato - AMBF vs BMAF Posted 14:57 on 13 November 2009
As much as I hate to bring up the interracial relationships comment bomb, it's interesting to contrast the views in China Smack about the Chinese man with the black girlfriend filmed on the Shanghai metro - it was generally much more positive (and I use that word almost sarcastically)

Any thoughts? One rule for men another for women?
flowerpower Posted 22:43 on 15 November 2009
A cosmopolitan China? I never thought Id see the day when such a phrase would be uttered....Yeah I saw that article too about the chinese man with the black girlfriend, it was hilarious esp what people were posting, including what they were saying about her knees I couldnt believe it. So its true tha Chinese people can be really rude too they just tend to keep it to themselves but cos the nets anonymous they can really say what they want
Olhos de Gato - a deeper reading Posted 11:51 on 16 November 2009
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111401147.html

This article exemplifies the type of discourse that is being banded about, whilst the article is strong in the sense that it looked at first person perspective from both Chinese and Africans, but asides from that it's falls from one dangerous heuristic pit after another.

There's that uncomfortable equation that Race = Obama and also the writers link anti-black racism to anti-tibetan and anti-uyghur sentiments. Anti-uyghur and anti-tibetan sentiments are borderline fascist and comes from a history of positive discrimination (quotas in education, not subject to one child policy, a nuked East China is acceptable loss) and a clumsy push towards celebrating minority culture - Tibetan bars and restaurants are everywhere, Tibetan medicine is fashionable and expensive, everytime you turn on the radio it's some tibetan singing about how lhasa is beautiful, how great that the railways has now been built and how thankful they are to the Party. Whilst I very much doubt that this is the view on the street of Lhasa (as I do the western version of it) for most Hans this is the equivilent of our own cultural genocide. Quite similar to when Tower Hamlets did Guy Fawkes night 2 years ago as a celebration of Syhelti culture and got the country up in arms about political-correctness-gone-mad: innocent enough till the Express hears about it.

Anti-black racism I would argue has been inheritted from Western attitudes. Before mass exposure to black people China's only contact with them is films, films which came about after the fall of the gang of four. Post-opening up, every sunday afternoon the whole nations sits down in front of the TV to savage cannibals trying to eat the brave men of the British army and rape the missionary's daughter, and when we pay to go to the cinema we see blacks as the clown characters, living in inner city slums and getting into trouble with the police. In the 50s and 60s all we saw were brave Angolans fighting for land and freedom against the portuguese - who were worse than incest-prone, AIDS ridden witches, now in 2009 you can bet that Precious will not going to do well in China but Banlieue 13 II will.

There is a very ancient and very Chinese xenophobia built into our psyche, but in my family, and I think many other Communist China families - it's the older generation that is more tolerant having been indoctrinated from birth that the brave coloured people of the tricontinental will defeat our white imperialist overlords.

In China, whilst cousins of mine would make comments about black people being very black and then giggle for hours, my uncles will try to reason with them that this is racism (unknown word to most youth I'm afraid), my grandparents would just beat them. I think our concern as Chinese progressives is not addressing "these ignorant Chinese" but rather what is making our kids racist, and what is the implication of this. Can we be an economic and cultural powerhouse, or even be fundamentally respected as a people, if we are raising a generation that can't wash or cook for themselves, and go around with this 1930s sambo mentality to deal with the world.

Lastly, there is an element of Cantonese bashing as well. True, we do have an insult for everything under the sun that isn't Cantonese but the article is convieniently going with the popular Chinese stereotype that Cantonese people are violent, ignorant and alcoholic small-town thugs, unfit members of the great han race. A view that is gaining prominence as Guangdong is losing it's status as THE place with money and culture to Beijing and Shanghai.
Xuan Di - I would like to join the Commu Posted 21:41 on 19 November 2009
I am interested in joining the Communist Party, but the Consulate-General has not been able to provide me with much information. Hence, I would be most grateful if you could advise me on the correct procedure to join the CCP.
Olhos de Gato Posted 13:01 on 16 November 2009
It is also important to point out that painting the Chinese as a one-sided perpetrator of racism is unfair. Proportionally, calling someone a black devil is not worse than the violence metted out to Chinese people in Nigeria, Angola, Sierra Leone, Algeria, Haiti who are all joining the ranks of the usual suspects of Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, Samoa etc in terms of racial violence, robbery, looting, lynchings and forced conversions.

Despite what the BBC wants us to believe, most Chinese immigrants in Africa and the Caribbeans are from very poor and uneducated backgrounds, trying to make the best of their lives by going abroad.
Chinese Imperialism Posted 16:25 on 22 December 2009
@Olhos de Gato

...And are often there illegally taking jobs providing services to Chinese workers that could be provided by locals. Locals, who the Chinese workers look down upon as lazy, grass skirt wearing, savages. ESPECIALLY the poor Chinese who don't have a decent enough education to know not to sh!t on people in their own country. If you go abroad to a country that is worse off than your own to make a buck or "improve your lot" you are... an imperialist.
dairyman Posted 13:14 on 18 November 2009
Great article, Olhos.
dtks888 - Lou Jing and Fear of a Black C Posted 14:29 on 18 November 2009
Every living person should be forced to watch (with appropriate surtitles) The Incredible Human Journey, charting our ancestors move from Africa across the globe, and our amazing evolution / diversification of skin tones, languages, arts, religions, philosophies and cultures.

The sooner everyone becomes educated and learns that we're all distant cousins, the less racism will raise its ugly little head in the East or West.

Om mani padme om.
Xuan Di - Pax Sinica Posted 22:53 on 19 November 2009
I beg to differ. The fact that we are distant cousins is of no consequence whatsoever. Humans and chimps have a common ancestor, and we have a common DNA of 98% with our primate cousins. Nevertheless, I'm sure the majority of people will agree that homo sapiens are much more intelligent than chimps. Also, the 2% difference in DNA is suffice to prevent any mating between humans and chimps, which is a further signficant oversight we just can't afford. Because all humans have a common ancestor doesn't imply that we're all the same; nor does it imply that all races are equally intelligent. There is a large body of contemporary scientific research which clearly indicates that White people and Orientals are more intelligent than any other race. In other words, Mongoloids are the only (intelligent) race which can challenge the racial supremacy of the White man. We are the only race which can challenge the global hegemony of the White race.

I completely disagree with your argument, because the story of Cain and Abel is not specific to Christianity; but instead, it is a universal moral tenet, which will stand the test of time. Makes no difference whether or not you believe in God; but the fact is, one group of people is held in higher esteem than any other group; although both these groups are closely related.

Hence, I quote from the Bible: "Does the wielder of an Axe not have power over the blade" and "Does the Potter not have power over the clay to exalt one group of people above all others?"

Whether you like it or not, Mongoloids are a superior race compared with Blacks, Semites, Persians, Pakis, Indians, and other dark races across the entire globe:

http://www.dimsum.co.uk/forum/viewpoints/topic-2674.html

According to the University of Oxford, "China is the oldest continuous civilisation in the world, whose achievements in philosophy, literature, art, science and technology stands comparison with that of Europe as a whole." In other words, the Ancient Chinese civilisation is the only civilisation which merits comparison with the pre-industrial civilisation of Europe as a whole. Orientals are the only race which merits comparison with the White peoples of North America and Europe.

In the present tense, we are witness to a paradigm shift, whereupon, the centre of global political power is shifting from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Sooner or later, America must give way to a new superpower, which will be the dominant global superpower of the next hundred years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/23/china-martin-jacques-economics

Like it or not, it is the destiny of all mankind to serve the descendants of Ghenghis Khan who is Universal Leader of the greatest continuous land empire in the history of the world. Believe it or not, our destiny is to rule the world.
Haneen Posted 18:11 on 19 November 2009
Western media sometimes deliberately exaggerate anti-Black racism in China (of course not saying it doesn't exist) in order to divert attention away from racism that exists at home.
corporatelies - Haneen Posted 23:10 on 1 January 2010
i think that comment of yours is quite weak, we all know that racism exists in the west so picking up a story about it in china has nothing to do with diverting attention. i can say with little doubt that Chinese are some of the most racist people i have ever met and I am Chinese and have worked extensively throughout HK and China. There is no denying that fact so face up to it.
Olhos de Gato Posted 12:38 on 20 November 2009
Xuan Di, I don't know whether to take you seriously or not.

Endless years of dogmatism promoted by the Party has led to an intellectual stupour that's allowed all sorts of half-baked, wacky nationalist theories and advocates come to the forefront. Some of them are pork chop nationalists - such as the Hanfu movement (which don't address Chineseness at all), some are a bit cuddly and useless such as the returnee lobby or the confucian revivalists, some are downright dangerous such as this so-called mongoloid superiority.

Firstly, you are falling on western theories - China never thought of itself in terms of race, only culture. If we're so superior, why are you borrowing the white man's ideas? Secondly, This notion of inherent superiority have been seen before; much like manifest destiny of the USA, of Imperial Britain or the racial supremacy advocated by Melanin-supremacists.

These theories disregards the truth that the vast majority of white Americans were living in shanties, whilst poorly paid, alcoholic, gnorrhea ridden soldiers were the ones killing natives, or that the British working class didn't even have food or sewage or that the Black Americas have nothing to do with Kemet, and live in an atavistic revenge mentality so well illustrated by Fanon.

Let's forget this nonsense about ruling the world and concentrate on uplifting our own communities. We have war veterans begging for food in China, women are being raped and killed in papua new guinea and we have families torn apart by takeaway life, gambling and mental health problems here in the UK. This global degradation certainly don't make me feel part of an invincible master race.

The idea that Blacks, Arabs and Latinos will be thankful to have us as their overlords reminds me of black nationalist theories that denigrate the achievements of our people and instead seek to overemphasises individual blacks in our history. This is quite harmless usually, but has dangerous historical precedence. The Russian defeat by Japan led to Marcus Garvey (I respect him in every other way) pumping money into the Japanese war machine, sponsoring the massacre of millions of Chinese.

No matter what the faults of the Communist party, be it its endemic careerism, oppression, ideological ruin or its crisis of validity - the likes of you racists don't belong in there. The constitution and policies of the party prohibits it; and I shall find it very odious if such fascists ideas are destroying a legacy of a multi-ethnic, internationalist party of the toilers. With all due respects, I shudder at the idea of you being in it.

Haneen - right on.
Xuan Di - Pax Mongolica Posted 13:17 on 23 November 2009
My argument is based on hard scientific fact; not simply rhetoric.

In the present tense, Japan is the second largest economic power in the world. China is projected to overtake Japan as the world's second largest economy by 2012. Goldman Sachs has predicted that China's GDP will have overtaken the United States by 2027. By 2050, China's GDP will be almost twice the size of the United States. China will be the dominant global economic superpower by 2050:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

In the present tense, China is the world's second military power in terms of it's conventional weapons. Towards the end of the century, it is predicted that China's military capability will be several times greater than the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

Not just any country can be in the global top ten in terms of it's military capability or economic output. Not just any country can be a Great Power in the next century. In the history of civilisation, only a select group of countries have been blessed with a manifest destiny such as to dominate global power politics. The People's Republic is the Pre-eminent Great Power of the next thousand years.
Chinese Imperialism Posted 16:38 on 22 December 2009
Hard scientific racism? You list a bunch of facts about GDP's. Yeah, GDP is the know all, end all proof of the superiority of people. Yep... By the way did you ever notice that the United States is not a "white" country, but a mutli-ethnic melting pot? THAT is what is actually superior. I hope to god China does become a better place. Better meaning less racist, more prosperous for ALL it's people, more egalitarian, etc.. I certainly hope it's military never lands in the hands of an Imperialist racist like you.
Xuan Di (Pseudonym) - Re: Chinese Imperialism Posted 22:21 on 22 December 2009
I completely disagree. Gross Domestic Product or Gross National Product is the international standard of measure as far as industrial output is concerned. It is a common standard accepted by IMF, WTO, World Bank, FTSE Group, United Nations, and US Intelligence. Given that the concept of GDP is good enough for such reputed international organisations then it’s good enough for the purpose of our discussion. After all, I don't think anyone would like to be accused of double standards - if it’s alright for them, then, it's alright as far as this debate is concerned.

You cannot apply one rule to those organisations and another for this argument sake. That would be logically inconsistent, which would render your argument totally void. Besides, what is your authority to say that Gross Domestic Product is not a valid concept in economics?

Admittedly, a great nation cannot be measured according to its GDP alone - there are other factors which need to be taken into consideration, such as “smart” power, “hard” power (i.e. military capability), and “soft” power, which depends on the economic performance of whichever nation.

America's military is based on its industrial might; but on the other hand, a poor developing country such as Ethiopia or Eritrea could never afford to build, let alone maintain a vast military infrastructure on a par with the US. Moreover, America's status as a global superpower is largely dependent on its military and economic manpower, which is on account of its population being well over 270 million people. Conversely, a small country with a small population such as Belgium, Luxembourg or Netherlands could never muster the required human capital to compete in military or economic terms with a global superpower such as United States.

Great Britain at the height of its colonial empire in 1815 to 1871 is no exception to this rule. Far from being a small country with a small population, the British Empire spanned three quarters of the earth’s surface with a sufficiently large population to dominate global power politics during the 19th century. Conversely, a country with a small territory or population could never raise a sufficient military or economic manpower to dominate other nations.

America's greatness is dependent on its ability to mobilise its "smart" power which is a combination is "hard" and "soft" power. Ultimately, US hegemonic power depends on its economic performance, because neither its bargaining power (i.e. economic sanctions or incentives) nor its military might could exist without its robust economic infrastructure, which is the basis of the world's largest economy - the European Union's share of global GDP is greater than the US, but E.U. resources cannot be effectively mobilised for military nor political ends until Europe becomes a Federal United States like USA (In the present tense, Europe is too DIVIDED to challenge Russia, China or the US). I think you have to realise that economic performance has a direct correlation with the military capability of any given country.

By the way, I've never said that America was a "white" nation; but it’s an indisputable fact that America's population is PREDOMINANTLY White. The overwhelming MAJORITY of US Citzens are White people, but only a small percentage of its population are ethnic minorities. America is not superior because of its multi-racial melting pot; but on the contrary, Germany or Japan is far superior to the United States if only because these countries practise racial homogeneity. I think you'll find the number of Blacks in Germany or Japan to be few and far between; which is the reason they are SUPERIOR to America. Your assumption that America is superior because of its multi-racial heritage is nothing but your own opinion, which is no better than my assertion that Germany is superior because of racial homogeneity amongst the general population.

If anything, America is a "superior" country if only because of the collective viewpoint of White people, which is a direct legacy of America's history of slavery, segregation, and racism. America is great if only because of far-right organisations such as Ku Klux Klan, German American Bunde, and the Aryan National Front etc. You are a complete hypocrite to say that it's okay for White people to be racist, but Chinese people have no right to be racist at all. Whereas on the one hand, National Socialism is academically regarded as a Bourgeois ideology in Europe, North America and Australia, Chinese racism is seen as a result of "ignorance" by uneducated Chinese who live in a poor developing country. This is yet a further example of double standards on your behalf; and quite frankly, your argument doesn't wash because it's full of hypocrisy. Why is it okay for Americans to be racist, whereas on the other hand, we have no right to be racist at all? You cannot morally or logically justify such an argument, which is inconsistent as much as it's a flawed argument.

Above and beyond anything else, it's a question of sovereignty which means no external power has the right to interfere with the internal politics of the People's Republic. Moreover, racial prejudice is a human right which is the universal sovereign right of ALL people, regardless of their race, creed or colour. It is our inalienable right as a sovereign nation that we should conduct our internal affairs as we see fit.

Last but not least, I am responding to your comment that China should become "more prosperous for ALL its people, more egalitarian". I am also aware there are Afro-Caribbeans, Indians, Uighurs, as well as White people who are permanently settled in the People's Republic. But that doesn't give them the right to be called "Chinese", nor does it mean they have a right to be in our country at all. With the exception that you are Mongoloid, you have no right to be in our country at all. Unless you are Han, you do not have the right of blood (Latin: Jus Sanguinis) to say the Red flag is your flag. Unless you are Han, you do not have the right of blood to say your race is identified with the soil upon which you are stood. Unless you are Han, you do not have the right of soil (Latin: Jus Soli) to say that China is your country.

P.S. I take it you are White? What gives you the right to come here in the first place? Given you are not a member of our race you have no right to be here, none whatsoever.
Chinese Imperialism Posted 1:20 on 23 December 2009
I have the right to go where I like, just like you do. Maybe one day the Chinese will wake up and realize that they are NOT special, just another tribe that left Africa long long ago. They don't have a "right" to rule the world. That is the "right" that we should talk about people not having. Everything you say sounds like the same racist "justifications" that whites had for taking over China 2 centuries ago. READ CAREFULLY:
It is not okay for ANYONE to be racist. Being racist is subhuman intelligence, racists of the past were idiots, just as you are an idiot now.
Xuan Di - Re: Chinese Imperialism Posted 17:25 on 27 December 2009
This is in response to your comment about people with "subhuman" intelligence.

Need I remind you that British MP, Enoch Powell, was the most influential Post-WWII politician, as well as being a racist? Powell graduated from Cambridge University in 1933, which is one of the finest universities in the English-speaking world. After graduation, Powell stayed on at Trinity College as a Fellow, spending much of his time studying ancient manuscripts in Rome and producing academic works in Greek and Welsh. In 1937 he was appointed Professor of Greek at Sydney University aged 25 (failing in his aim of beating Nietzsche's record of becoming a professor at 24). At the time, he was the youngest person ever to be appointed a Professor of Greek in the British Empire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell#Pre-war_career
There are numerous other examples of notorious racist political leaders who are much smarter than you or any African American e.g. Dr Paul Josef Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda and Enlightenment in Germany between 1933 to 1945; Nick Griffin, MEP and leader of the far-right BNP is also a graduate of Cambridge University; the British author and poet, Joseph Rudyard Kipling was a "Prophet of British Imperialism" who commented about "lesser breeds without the law" etc.

As indeed, there are large numbers of intelligent people across the continents throughout the entire world who are self proclaimed racists. For instance, when Enoch Powell was challenged by a reporter about his stance on immigration, Powell retorted, "What's wrong with racism?" There is absolutely nothing wrong with racism whatsoever. It is simply political correctness to abhor, castigate or condemn racism in a modern state such as America. Racism is only repugnant to the African American community as well as Blacks in Subsaharan Africa, because they know damned well they will never bask in the glory of global political leadership, such as the Roman Empire in it's heyday, Britain in the 19th century or America in the 20th century:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqMCMFlvJq4&feature=fvw

Your remarks are those of a Black supremacist who is ENVIOUS of the great cultural and technological achievements of White people and Asiatics over the course of the last 3,500 years. Need I remind you that China was the most scientifically advanced country in the world in 1600 (Sociology Themes and Perspectives, Haralambos and Holborn ISBN 13-9780007245956)?

Black supremacy has no scientific basis whatever given the fact most of Subsaharan Africa is NOT actually developing. Whereas, BRIC countries are classed as developing countries, most of Africa is NOT developing at all. De facto, the only civilised nation in Subsaharan Africa is South Africa which was founded by British, French, and Dutch colonial settlers. Had it not been for the civilising influence of the White man, Negroes would still be naked. Their naked bodies would be exposed tout le monde. If you're so proud of your heritage why don't you take off your clothes and go back to your people in Africa?

Are you not aware that we could easily obliterate the whole of Africa within a matter of seconds? De facto, China has enough ballistic missiles and nuclear submarines to obliterate Africa, Arab nations, Persia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh within a matter of seconds. With the exception of Whites, the People's Liberation Army could easily win a war against any race, creed or colour on the face of the earth.

I know, it's easy for you to make snide comments in the comfort of your own home, knowing full well that United States is the most secure nation on earth (Noam Chomsky: Imperial Ambitions, ISBN-10: 0141026928); but left to your own device you wouldn't stand a chance. Most of the conscripts drafted into the US Army are White males between the age of 18 to 26 years old. Therefore, it's curious how an African American such as you is literally hiding behind the descendants of White supremacist attackers, who historically, are the very people that lynched African Americans over the last two centuries across the USA.

In the event of all out RACE WAR between your people and mine (Japan, Korea, China, and Mongolia) I have no doubt that the end result would be one of genocide and racial extinction for the millions of African descended peoples across the continents throughout the entire world.

African Americans are the ONLY race which is SUBHUMAN. Just look at the state of Africa, there's no development at all; there's nothing but civil war, destruction, famine, malnutrition, poverty, disease, open sewage, squalor, not to mention HIV - flies, fesces & excreta.
Juicybite - Short and sweet Posted 2:19 on 21 November 2009
In complete darkness we are all the same. It is only our knowledge and wisdom that separates up. Don't let your eyes deceive you...
Xuan Di Posted 4:51 on 23 November 2009
There's nothing wrong with using Western theories as long as you can justify it in rational terms. Much of the Chinese constitution is based on Communism, which is a Western theory. The Great Master, Bruce Lee, said it doesn't matter where the technique or ideas come from as long as you can use it. Although we may not be agreed on certain things it doesn't mean that my ideas have no value whatsoever. But on the contrary, I think we can both make a positive contribution to this interesting debate. I'm sure that you're more than familiar with the concept of a dialectic which is the basis of any constructive argument. I'm not going to bore you with the ins and outs of what that means.

I think you have given an interesting account of America's history, which hitherto a lot of people tend to overlook. I think the mainstream, political, White majority in America has a vested interest in depicting the White race is terms which are only favourable to them; which is usually done to the detriment of other groups e.g. Blacks, Asians, Latinos, and Native Americans.

All too often we are constantly bombarded with images of White people who are well groomed, well mannered, with a high standard of personal hygiene. But on the other hand, we are concurrently bombarded by images of ethnic minorities who are depicted as low-skilled manual workers.

In the immediate aftermath of President Obama's election in November 2008, Michael Portillo, Diane Abbot, and Jerry Springer appeared in a television broadcast to comment on the signficance of this historic election. The thing that struck me most was Jerry Springer's comment about the lower-orders of White people who are the recurrent guests on his programme. Springer said that his show was a revolution when it was initially broadcast in the early 1990's; because hitherto, lower-class Whites had seldom been seen on television, although they always existed in the background, away from the public gaze. Also, as you say, the English working-class lived in abject poverty and squalor throughout the period of the industrial revolution in the 19th century. It is certainly true that the vast majority of Whites in Europe and North America were low-waged, working-class, illiterate people throughout the 19th century (and before) and Western society (like any other pre-industrial society) was organised like a pyramid, whereby, the Proletariat vastly outnumbered the Middle and Upper classes. Although the Middle class was outnumbered by the Working-class, they in turn outnumbered the social aristocracy in their respective countries. Its only relatively recent that the Middle-classes have expanded to such an extent that they now comprise the largest social division in contemporary Western society. In other words, post-industrial society in the West (including Japan) is organised like a diamond shaped object, whereby, the Middle-class which is situated in the middle vastly outnumbers the social elite as well as the working class.

It is in the interest of the political establishment, powerful interst groups, as well as media moghuls to depict White people in terms which are stricly favourable to their own group. I think you will find this situation in any country which is dominated by Whites.

Henceforth, I accept that White supremacy is largely a myth in some respects, which is given the fact that not all White people are Middle or Upper class. Having said that, I also believe it is important to look at ALL the facts instead of taking a one-sided approach to this argument.

The fact that most White people lived in abject poverty and squalor in the 19th century does not mitigate what this group has achieved as a coherent social, economic, and military force in the last 500 years of European colonial empire. Notwithstanding the wretched conditions of the working-class it does not mitigate the fact they have been successfully mobilised for military as well as economic reasons by the respective Great Powers of the last half millenium. Although Working-class Whites are wretched people it does not mitigate what the White race (as a whole) is capable of achieving once the masses are mobilised in accord with the strategic aims of the Middle and Upper classes.

There is a large body of important scientific research being conducted on the global variations of I.Q. according to one's race, gender, age, and social class. Professor J.P. Rushton has compiled the most important research in this field, which he calls the Heritability of World I.Q. Differences. According to Rushton, the median White I.Q. is taken as a percentile, which is invariably 100 in any country that is dominated by Whites. 100 I.Q. is taken as a reference frame to compare other racial groups.

According to Rushton, the median I.Q. of African Americans is about 85, which is roughly the same as Latinos (Mestizos) in North, Central & South America. This is due to the mixed race DNA of Hispanic and African Americans who are mostly non-White. Rushton says that the I.Q. of South Asians, Afghans, Persians, Middle Easterners (except for Israel), Turks, and North Africans is even more controversial than Black-White I.Q. differences. Rushton says the median I.Q. of this group is approximately 85, which is similar to Latinos and African Americans. Although the majority of Indian migrants in the U.S. are at the cutting edge of Science, Engineering, I.T., and Academia; and there are scientists in India and Pakistan who are capable of creating nuclear weapons, the vast majority of people in India/Pakistan gravitate towards a median I.Q. of 85. Rushton says the majority of people having children in the Indian subcontinent tends to gravitate to a median IQ of 85, which is a problem in the long-term. Although India is often described as a "superpower", as yet, it has not been able to compete with China.

Rushton goes on to say that pure race Negroes in Sub-Saharan Africa have a median I.Q. of 70; which is why there are no Black scientists. Even the most intelligent Engineering graduates in Africa have a median IQ of about 103 taken as a group, which is distinct from the general population of Sub-Saharan Africa.

Rushton goes on to say that Australoid Aborigines have the lowest recorded IQ. of any group in the world. The median IQ of Australian Aborigines is about 60.

Rushton says that IQ is a measure of cognitive ability, which does not in anyway suggest that people with a below average IQ are somehow "retarded". But instead, such people are to be compared with, say, a ten year old who isn't retarded; but the cognitive ability of a ten year old cannot, by any means, compare with that of a university entrant at the age of 18 years. Rushton says that the IQ differences between Black and White is about the same as the difference between a freshman at Harvard and a high school graduate without any experience of higher education. The difference in this case is about 30 points on the IQ percentile of the US population as a whole.

Rushton goes on to say that East Asians have a median IQ which is slightly higher than the 100 IQ for Whites. According to Rushton, Orientals have a median IQ of about 106; which means the "Chinese have the ability to be our (White) great rivals or great allies. (Orientals) They have the brains to beat us (Whites)":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Philippe_Rushton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_Evolution_and_Behavior

http://www.ssc.uwo.ca/psychology/faculty/rushton_bio.htm

http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/JPRvitae.htm

http://www.pioneerfund.org/Board.html

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Evolution-Behavior-History-Perspective/dp/0965683613

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Race-Evolution-Behavior-History-Perspective/dp/0965683613/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258944509&sr=1-1

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/63/cYe_jcmY7QE

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/62/11uVdvxc9ac

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/61/ZMHdZtfAYb8

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/60/-wrmqC4toHs

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/59/xbpAnEAfqx0

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/57/wsBIKtUBRnw

http://www.youtube.com/user/minutemenicbm3#p/f/56/6pQqB1l3D3I

Your thesis about global degradation is right; but Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said that "China is still a developing country and it will take a great deal of concerted effort by several generations of Chinese before we will be developed."

In 1640, when the Mayflower ship landed in Plymouth, Massachusetts no one would have guessed that America would be the dominant global superpower by the end of WWII. Professor Noam Chomsky said that in 1840, whilst Britain was a major economic power, United States was a minor economic power. In 1840, no one would have guessed that America would displace Great Britain as the dominant global superpower in little more than a hundred years.

At his Gettysburg address in 1852 it would do no justice for any British redcoat to tell President Lincoln that America has no manifest destiny as in the case of Pax Britannica between 1815 and 1871.

There are many who say that China has no prospect to rule the world, but this is nothing but sophistry and propaganda. Premier Wen has said China is not even halfway towards becoming a superpower; so, how then, can anybody rightly dismiss China's hegemonic ambitions at this early stage of our peaceful development? We're not even halfway to becoming a superpower; so, how is it right for anyone to say we have no prospect to rule the world? The number of arguments for or against us are prolific; but the important thing to remember is, nobody really knows what will happen in a hundred years. The arguments for or against are nothing but speculative if not sheer propaganda.

It would be just as unfair to say to Abraham Lincoln that his country will never attain the heights of global political power in 1852. I think there is a danger that we might also fall into the same trap if we assume the Chinese government does not have hegemonic ambitions for our country in the next century. Why else would China announce a 14.7 % increase in its military budget year on year for the last five years; whereas, in fact, 80% of the Chinese population are rural peasants who still live in the utmost poverty and squalor? Surely, that money could be better spent on helping the millions of people who have little if any opportunities to make a better life for themselves in the next 10 to 20 years?

Premier Wen Jiabao said that "China's peaceful rise has been the hope of many generations of Chinese." Why would the Chinese Premier make such a remark unless Central Government has a tall order in terms of its Grand Strategy? I believe that China's foreign policy has set the nation a goal which is nothing short of restoring China's original position in this region as well as the rest of the world.

Notwithstanding the global degradation of Chinese people the economic miracle of Japan and the Four Asian Tigers is a testament to what we can or might achieve once our workforce is mobilised for productive purposes.

Although I do not claim that we are an invincible Master race I do believe that we are the only intelligent people which can challenge White supremacy in the next hundred years. No other race has that privilege given that we are SUPERIOR to any other race, excepting the White race. This earth can only be dominated by Whites or Orientals or both. No other race has that privilege. This is not a matter of opinion; but it is a matter of (scientific) fact. Make no mistake about who we are.

Of course, I am also referring to the recent documentary on Channel 4: Race and Intelligence and here is a link to the resulting blog with regards to the controversies surrounding race and intelligence. There is so much compelling evidence to suggest that Whites and Orientals are more intelligent than other races, we cannot simply ignore the evidence in favour of political correctness. Need I remind you that Creationism was politically correct prior to the advent of evolution; but that doesn't mean to say that the traditional Christian worldview is right and should be regarded as such to the detriment of scientific reason:

http://www.channel4.com/search/?q=race+and+intelligence

Although it is true that most White Americans lived in wretched conditions throughout the 19th century, it is an indisputable fact that White people have been the global political overlords for the last 500 years. Given that is the case, who is to say that we are not the ascendant superpower of the next hundred years?
Olhos de Gato Posted 13:48 on 23 November 2009
Unbelievable

IQ is NOT a scientific fact, it's an intangible measurement of the human mind itself. Science is pure conjecture, taken as fact until it's superceeded by another framework. You mentioned that creationism was the truth. I put to you that similar to creationism, IQ does not exist, IQ is a historically specific idea that contemporary society uses. Look at the developments in psychoanalysis, Jung, Freud and Adler all paid little attention to IQ. Even taking it at face value, the consensus generally is that it does not represent a vocabulary of choices as you suggested, nor is it is inheritted - neither from your parents nor your phenotype.

IQ tests itself are utterly flawed, this is not a racial issue but a cultural one. IQ tests are biased and pander to white knowledge, and we Asians compensate by having a particularly strong emphasis on education. Modern IQ tests may be more subtle, you won't see for example questions about yachting in the old 11 plus that doomed so many working class students, but none the less it's still cultural capital all contributes to achievements. The strong Asian work ethic persists in this country because our children are isolated and racially stranded, and also due to the aspirations of the community here. If this is a racial thing divorced from the social surrounding then there will be no reason for us Chinese to underperform so massively in the Malaysian education system or how the situation for us is getting worse in Russia day by day.

IQ tests are no measurement of intelligence and some intrinsic racial intelligence (should this even exist) does not equal to geopolitical power, or its potential. If IQ does correlate to race as you so crudely suggest, why does geopolitical power shift through the epochs? How does the enlightenment and the reformation arm the Europeans with the social structures which allowed them to dominate so much of the world? Did they get smart quick? Why did we stagnate in the Ming dynasty? Did we suddenly get stupid? Contemporary white supremacy is enforced not by intelligence nor the products of intelligence, the tricontinental were underdeveloped by the rise of capitalism, our underdevelopment IS the global economy - not a result of it. The dwindling of influence, and eventual demise of medieval political capitals such as Changan, Angkor Wat, Tikal, Abomey, Gao etc is due to very specific circumstances; not some overarching failure of values devised by the ignorant or a generation of particularly stupid babies.

The claim that there is no African or Aboriginal scientists is frankly laughable, where did you get this source from? Sure, I accept and concord that many afro-supremacist myths disregard the actual history of science and technology but to denigrating the contributions of other Asians, Africans and Americans to the world's bank of knowledge is astonishing.

I know exactly what dialectics is, but this is a bit Hegelian for my liking since we are dealing with values, ideas, zeitgeist and what not. I believe the way you think has been already been addressed by certain writers that you pertain to admire....

SOME white people have ruled the world including other white people for the last 500 years, I don't think that it's "racially impossible" (as this is what you think I am suggesting) that SOME chinese people will rule the world including other chinese people for the next 500 or so - I am saying that this has nothing to do with the inferiority of other races, but more importantly this does not represent progress for us AS A PEOPLE.

I certainly don't mean this as a personal attack, but you sound like you're just trying to justify how you don't like those Hak Gwei in a nice, pseudo-intellectual way. That being said, I do think you should write an article and let the community discuss this. Maybe we'll have our very own Kenneth Eng.
Chinese Imperialism Posted 16:49 on 22 December 2009
Thank you for pointing out the stupidity of IQ tests and using them as a demonstration of the superiority of one race over another. After all race is a social construct with very little important biological difference. The low scores on IQ tests by African Americans and such groups can be easily seen as cultural bias in testing. Besides there are many types of intelligence. Look into the theory of multiple intelligences.
Olhos de Gato Posted 13:48 on 23 November 2009
http://www.skepdic.com/iqrace.html
Anonymous Posted 2:13 on 3 December 2009
HAHA, DAUGHTER OF A SHANGHAI CHINESE MOTHER AND FATHER IS BLACK AMERICAN!! HAHA, THATS FUNNY, TOTALLY FULFILLS THE STEREOTYPE ABOUT SHANGHAI WOMEN SCREWING AND MARRYING ANY AMERICAN WITH AMERICAN DOLLARS.

JUICYBITE "In complete darkness we are all the same..." HAHA, IN COMPLETE DARKNESS YOU'LL BE SLEEPING WITH HORSES THEN, SINCE EVERYTHING IS BLACK.

IN MODERATE DARKNESS, WE'RE NOT THE SAME, WE CAN ONLY SEE A PAIR OF FLOATING EYES AND WHITE TEETH FROM BLACKS IN THE MODERATE DARK.
Anonymous Posted 9:47 on 10 December 2009
the article is the most bias crap i've ever read. you dedicated a whole paragraph on chinese racism against blacks resulting in black deaths in china. Really? why don't you talk about the deaths of chinese who were attacked by blacks in china. and indeed in africa, where many chinese workers are targeted by black locals...attacked and murdered too causing many to argue china should withdraw its investment from africa until security is tightened up. You dont talk about this do you?

Why dont you talk about the racial abuse blacks give chinese people in the USA?

You also failed to mention the fact that Loujing's mother was married to a chinese man. she secretly had an affair with a black man without her husband knowing, her chinese husband only knew and decided to divorced her after she gave birth to a black baby. You dont mention this, do you? Thats is absolutely disgusting behaviour and quite frankly as a chinese, i'm assuming youre chinese (but i bet youre mixed) am appauled by her mothers behaviour. For such a skank to come on national TV like that. You havent even discuss social morality nor have you discussed confucianism in china, you automatically say the chinese are racist. they would still attack her even if she had an affair with a chinese man instead of a black man. its not at all completely driven by race, its a question of morality and values which has simply been accentuated by the race factor.
Chinese Imperialism Posted 16:44 on 22 December 2009
Lou Jing's mother was a college student when she met the man who abandoned her and her daughter. She wasn't married. Go make up lies somewhere else...
Anonymous Posted 7:39 on 6 January 2010
Chinese Imperialism Posted 16:44 on 22 December 2009

Lou Jing's mother was a college student when she met the man who abandoned her and her daughter. She wasn't married. Go make up lies somewhere else...

INCORRECT. SHE was MARRIED to chinese party secretary.
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/09/22/birth-story-of-shanghai-black-girl-luo-jing/

It was half a year into their marriage, that Lou Jing’s mom attended the Shanghai Chemical Enginnering University (Now called 华东理工大学, too lazy to find the translation), had sexual relationship with a black man, and conceived Lou Jing.
Xuan Di - Disclaimer Posted 11:01 on 11 December 2009
This is just to let you know I am NOT the anonymous contributor of the last two threads.
Cole - It's the singing Posted 12:12 on 12 December 2009
Just by watching the video and listen to her singing, I don't think it's the skin colour that put her down, it's really the singing.
good grief Posted 15:36 on 13 December 2009
why is everyone being so judgemental? Is it really such a big deal. We all know that everyones a little bit racist its just a fact of life.
Olhos de Gato - face-saving vs anti-racism Posted 16:06 on 15 December 2009
Anonymous, kindly re-read the article carefully. I was addressing "THE CHINESE ARE SO RACIST OMFG" hype that dominated mainstream international newspapers for this very inconsequential issue.

The article is a response to the RACIST, "THESE chinese", yellow peril stereotype being perpetuated by that kind of irresponsible discourse.

Your trying to say that everyone in China looks down on divorce, affairs, infidelity and burst hymens etc as some sort of racial face-saving excercise is.... well.... I think you just need to wake up and smell the discarded condoms.

Cole gets it, Cole reads. As for anti-Chinese attacks, I DID mention it. Read the comments before you start with the horse-f***ing and mongrel blood. You're just giving CNN more fodder.

Don't worry Xuan Di - I know it's not you.
Olhos de Gato Posted 11:39 on 18 December 2009
hahahahahahaha

Sorry to burst your bubble, im a pure blood, mainland born and bred chinese. Thought I wouldn't mention it just so we can all see your racist rants. After all, it's racially impossible for us to disagree with you. Lol!

Our sisters have no racial duty to f*** you, don't slag off "Shanghai" or the diaspora just coz you get none. Calling our women bitches is not going to improve your stand in their eyes either. Lastly don't insult Chinese men so blanketly, we're not all as narrow minded spiteful as you.
Editor Posted 22:28 on 22 December 2009
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Meh Posted 22:54 on 3 January 2010
Wait, whites have been doing this for decades, nay centuries. Where are the anti-white riots?

And racism is everywhere, every race and with every possible combination in every country. Politically it's a lot more simpler, but on a personal level anyone can (and does) hate other races just because they can.
Bruce Li - Xuan Di Posted 5:57 on 14 January 2010
You are a fool without a clue. God will punish you for your views. Everybody is equal no matter what race or colour you are.
jason - oj Posted 21:41 on 20 January 2010
this is a cuty girl
hoho
Rickisha Posted 23:42 on 24 January 2010
It's interesting how flippantly you dismissed the anti-black racism that does occur in China. As a black female who lived and traveled in China for two years I know what it feels like to be black and in China. I was never bothered by the stares and unwanted touching I received when I traveled along with Chinese or white friends, it was when I was by myself that I realized the extent to which anti-black prejudice exists in China.

Alone I was subject to rude comments and racial slurs daily (I speak very good Chinese). Comments that I was "dirty" that blacks "don't shower" that I was a hei gui (黑鬼)were daily occurrences. You have no idea how alone I felt in China having never heard that the Chinese held prejudices against blacks before.

It is only recently that I know I was not alone in my experience and I am currently writing my Undergraduate thesis on this topic. I know it's important to point out that the Chinese are not heartless racist monsters. To stereotype anyone or any race as such is disgusting. But to be an apologist. To claim that the Chinese aren't really racist, but curious is a disgusting understatement and offensive to all blacks who have suffered prejudice day in and day out in China.
Lady Hakga - Bad science Posted 17:30 on 25 January 2010
Now that is what I call a good lively blog I like to read not some of the other boring stuff.
My inflated Zen comment is that there are racists and non-racist. I prefer racism not to exist but it doesn't alas. As for objectivity Tiger Woods who is half chinese/black should of been used as judge because when it comes to judging beautiful women his predictability is scientific.
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