Wholegrain - The Question

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

The recent submission on 'wholegrain' is that it is anti-nutrients. This is because grains(seeds) were evolved for survival, therefore, it was evolved to be eaten by predators, and then expel from the digestive system, wholly unchanged. Therefore, raw seeds and grains cnnot be nutritious. ???Any thoughts on this theory??

Edwina Lee · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject:

Seeds must store a lot of energy & material to enable it to germinate a new plant without photosynthesis. Seeds must therfore packed densely with all kinds of nutrients.

Fruits usually have seeds with a tough cover to enable passage through a bird's digestive tracts. Fruits therfore do not need to be densely nutritious, just dense enough for it o be worthwhile for animals which eat it.

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

Anyone asked the questions why those 'poor souls' who discovered 'grains' invented ways to pound down those grains into digestible pulp, or took the trouble to remove the indigistible part, now classified as 'good for us' by recent nutrition experts.

Easy observations and experiments. Notice how those seeds eaten by us simply pass through our digestive tract, totally unchanged. Ever thought this is why our early ancestors took great trouble to pound, ground and pulp seeds and grains???.

Recently read articles written by various researchers into the British Chinese Food Culture. My questions is the same, has anyone bothered to ensure that their findings and research are throughly investigated before they present us with the 'facts'? When 'faulty research' are plated to us mortals as 'science' and 'true history'; it makes a fool of all those that swallowed the 'facts' whole; and those that present themselves as 'experts'. There are 'big holes' in the timeline; and a timeline without mentioning the 'revolution in the British Chinese Food Culture' spearheaded by the 'Yau' factor; is missing a big part of our Food history.

So, Edwina, we all know grains and seeds contained loads of vitamins, minerals, anti-oxidants, etc. The question is can our digistive system absorbs these nutrients. Also, to ensure survival of their species, a fundamental reason for being 'alive', do these grains and seeds produce anti nutrients that can be harmful to us humans? Therefore, the question is not whether wholegrains contain nutrients but whether they also contain anti-nutrients. Ever give our ancestors the credit that they may know 'more' than us 'educated beings' of today ?

Edwina Lee · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject:

Failed particle physics students should not be allowed to write food articles. The 1st thing they do is to apply their misunderstood concepts of anti-matter to food.

Imagine this. A particle physics student has just received his Fail certificate. In his despair, seeks comfort in a dim sum restaurant without any idea how he is going to pay back his massive student loan, let alone the restaurant bill.

He ate & ate as much as he can, expecting to be thrown into the streets like a bag of rubbish when he can't pay his bill.

But he had an inspiration just as he stuffed the last bit of cha chiu bau. He told the restaurant owner a great way of creating high turn over from his customers by a win-win arrangement with his rival dim sum restaurant next door. The idea of anti-dimsum was thus born.

He just needs to test the idea over and talk to the dim sum restaurant next door. So off he went.

After stuffing himself all over again at the 2nd restaurant, he told the owner that he felt as if he hadn't eaten any dimsum at all - as if he never ate at the 1st dim sum restaurant either. Hence, this restaurant's dimsums are anti-dimsums, and they are responsible for compensating his lost experience at the 1st dimsum restaurant.

Well, this owner has never heard anything so bold and extraordinary before. He was stunned. Then the student took out his Student Union's card to show that he is a student of Physics at a most prestigious university. The owner has to believe him now, so he compensated the student for the cost of the meal at the 1st restaurant, and asked for his silence about the anti-dimsum effects of his restaurant.

But hold on, said the student. You haven't heard the good news yet! Your anti-dimsums will attract slimming gluttons who will more than willing to pay double to be able to eat anti-dimsums after they over gorged themselves at the rival restaurant.

For this information, I'm sure you would be more than delighted to reward me with a big share of your business and we'll be partners with your rival dimsum restaurant!

So a wonderful happy ending to all in the catering trade.
Very Happy

Edwina

pensggs · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 372

Once again, an attempt to provoke a reply.

Edwina, you do not need this as you are the moderator and can delete anything not to your liking. How can you argue with 'Hilter'. Do you know the rules of 'At Arm's length'. Maybe not

This Dimsum table in this restaurant are full of 'counterfeit hangbags', 'advertismement for sexual services from men selling females', counterfeit golf clubs' and all manners of unpleasant human garbage. Edwina, this Dimsum table haeaded by you have only one way to go. Staight down the Loo.

Xue-Ping, the air in Beijing got to be cleaner than at this Dimsum table.

Copy of this will be sent to the Editor, as you, Edwina, whether male or female Dimsum persona, would probably delete this, as you had deleted my last submission.

Good bye and Good Luck. This Dimsum table now stinks of human excreta.

xan · Joined: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 8

I agree totally with pensggs's sentiments regarding the state of this forum.

I did post about the neglect of the forum by the Dimsum team and the lack of moderators to delete the spam merchants who register to link to sex websites in San Francisco, etc.

About that time, Sarah made Edwina a moderator, and subsequently some of the spam users have been deleted, but not wengaga, the spammer I mentioned in my post.

So, Edwina, you are Dimsum's Only Hope. Use the Force! Purge the forum and keep it clean and sweet smelling.

A few suggestions:

(1) Delete the current spam users, such as wengaga and turtlemother.

(2) Review new posts on a regular and frequent basis, at least twice a day. This should not take much time, considering how inactive the forum is.

(3) Treat as spam all posts that draw attention to other websites that clearly contravene the aims and rules of Dimsum, such as bbczeitgeist.blogspot.

(4) Delete off-topic spam in other areas of the Dimsum website, such as this Culture topic.

(5) Block spammers on IP address.

(6) Implement an automatic way to stop new users including external links in their posts until they have attained a specified minimum period of membership and made a specified minimum number of posts.

(7) Provide a spam button against each post for users to alert the moderator and a convenient link to email the moderator/editor. Address any such alerts urgently.

Edwina Lee · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:47 pm Post subject:

Hi Xan & Pensggs,

Firstly, I have to assert that spamming left on the forum has been minimal since I started deleting them.

As for the need to delete the identity of spammers, I would say no need, because they just come back in with a different name.

Is it worthwhile for spammers to keep doing what they do? I would say not at all. Takes too much effort to post advertising messages and get them deleted. Soon they'll learn that they are wasting their time.

As for Turtlemother, she does not fall into the category of commercial advertiser. She points to a controversial blog for discussion. Afterall, the forum is for encouragement of discussion - controversial or not.

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